yeah, but there's the rules on how to paint.
Chess is not an art
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like, i wouldn't consider that a rule so much as a definition.
17000mph wrote:
Chess is an art as long as you can breathe life into it.
so ... so .. how can I put this ...creating a baby, are both parents the artists? SIs the baby the work of art, or is the performance... oh .. nevermind.
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#105
fireballz wrote:
If there is a creative stage within something, then it is art.
art is free thinking...
it is expression...
feeling...
when I play chess, i do get a feeling of being in control...
the game itself, become an imaginary canvas, where you can march your troops on plains of understanding...
at the end, if you had it your way, you might look back on the game, and see the beauty of what had happened...
the game can be frozen in time, and kept on paper...for many years...
thoughts can be sculpted this way...
imagination will prove many things... art is pure expression.
one can even see emotion in a game, also, one can feel an opponents strength in a game..it is definitely art.
When I think of art-making, I generally think of activity where one's stream of consciousness is evident in the artwork, and where creativity is appreciated more than compliance with rules and expectations, neither of which I feel applies to chess very much. In other words, I don't feel like I have that much freedom to create when creativity at the expense of tactical awareness can be punished so immediately and severely.
Chess is art.
Chess isn't art. You must copy other already established move sets to be successful in chess, both casually and professionally. Its more advanced copying and pattern recognition.
Oct 11, 2025
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#108
Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:
Chess isn't art. You must copy other already established move sets to be successful in chess, both casually and professionally. Its more advanced copying and pattern recognition.
Most art forms advance by the copying and adapting of what is already out there. Total originality is not necessary to have some kind of artistic merit.
For some reason Tertis has resurrected a bunch of inactive threads
Yeah, I did, MrChatty. LOL, Tertis. It's like tortoise.
Chess surely has artistic elements. The game that Rapport won over Pragg earlier this year was a masterpiece. It will be remembered for the next century because of the beauty of its moves.
i have had this conversation many times. I make an analogy to classical music. I know some people who criticize classical music and say it all sounds the same. The issue is not the music. The problem is that they do not have the experience listening to the music that would enable them to appreciate it.
It is the same with chess. beginners may struggle with the game. They don’t see the patterns that are there. And they can’t appreciate the novelty, elegance, beauty that can be seen by an aficionado.
Oct 11, 2025
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In the Oxford dictionary, art is defined as, “The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination.”
Yes chess is art.
LieutenantFrankColumbo wrote:
In the Oxford dictionary, art is defined as, “The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination.”
Yes chess is art.
Well now I need to ask, what isn't a Art?
Oct 11, 2025
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#116
Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:
LieutenantFrankColumbo wrote:
In the Oxford dictionary, art is defined as, “The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination.”
Yes chess is art.
Well now I need to ask, what isn't a Art?
Thats actually an excellent question. Because by the definition/opinion of any one of the 8+ Billion people on planet earth. Anything could be art.
A picture of a potato sold for more than $1 Million.
A picture of a banana taped to a wall sold for over $8 Million.
Oct 11, 2025
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#117
LieutenantFrankColumbo wrote:
Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:
LieutenantFrankColumbo wrote:
In the Oxford dictionary, art is defined as, “The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination.”
Yes chess is art.
Well now I need to ask, what isn't a Art?
Thats actually an excellent question. Because by the definition/opinion of any one of the 8+ Billion people on planet earth. Anything could be art.
A picture of a potato sold for more than $1 Million.
A picture of a banana taped to a wall sold for over $8 Million.
The banana thing is ridiculous
Oct 11, 2025
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#119
Just_an_average_player136 wrote:
And the potato
Agreed. But all it takes is one person to think its art.
Pro sports is the same way. It only takes one person to think a player is worth $500,000,000.
Chess is an art as long as you can breathe life into it. Whether or not your work of art is a good one, well...and can't some concepts/pursuits be both art and science? Isn't the universe in a sense a work of art?