Chess is SCIENCE!

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ligaya81

Claude Shannon once calculated that the number of chess positions is greater than the number of atoms in the universe.

Is the comparison between chess and nuclear physics in place? Sure it is. People get PhDs in nuclear physics in 8 years, they build nuclear reactors etc, however, it takes even longer to learn to play chess at GM level. Nuclear physicists have to remember much less patterns than chess players. Chess in not natural phenomena, but it may be studied as such, using calculations, probabilities and so on. It should be studied at Universities, alongside math and physics.

Just like nuclear physics, in chess we deal with unknown principles, invisible entities - we have to use imagination and logic in order to calculate. Remember the indeterminacy principle in quantum physics? Just like we know the current position of a particle but not its speed and future positions, so we know the current position of a chess piece but not its future positions. These are just probabilities. It's very difficult to calculate chess positions, did I mention that?

Therefore, make sure to buy courses on every important position, opening, tactics and so on, play many online blitz games and puzzles (constructed or taken from unknown games), and of course - easily beat 2200 elo bots on a weak CPU. That's how you will gain proper understanding of the game.

CraigIreland

The number which Shannon's estimate arrived at, which exceeds the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, was for the number of different games, not positions. The latter estimate is very much smaller than the number atoms in the observable universe.

On the subject of the uncertainty principle, we can know both the position and speed of an elementary particle accurately. It is position and momentum, and by extension, velocity, which form a complementary pair of variables.

ligaya81

Bravo! You passed the test, there are many smart people here but you two are special.

marqumax
Chess is useless in contrast to nuclear physics.
CraigIreland
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

I am pretty sure that even world no. 30 is much more poor compared to a nuclear physicist

About the same. The main difference is that someone who trains as Nuclear Physicist learns many transferable skills, whereas someone who trains as a Chess player will need to learn new skills if they can't make a living out of it.

ligaya81

I thought my irony was obvious.

Chess is a sport, there are videos of Bobby Fischer lifting weights, swimming etc. You'll play better if you do pushups and lift weights regularly.

Minifezfc
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BlueHen86

What about dark matter? Are there dark chess moves too?

ligaya81
BlueHen86 wrote:

What about dark matter? Are there dark chess moves too?

Finally, a reasonable question!

There must be dark chess moves. These are the moves you can't predict, pulled by GMs and super GMs.

I suspect they connect to quantum vacuum and use the chaotic behavior of Nothingness to calculate their moves, thus making them appear illogical to opponent.