Chess is too much memorization. Let's fix it.

”Am I really watching Carlsen play Grischuk? Or am I watching Stockfish play Stockfish? At the top level of chess it is the latter for the first 20 moves minimum”

I have followed many games between Carlsen and Grischuk, and in none of them the first 20 moves minimum were anywhere near that. For example in the game Carlsen won in Shamkir last year, the players had left theory by move 8, and from there it was just an entirely human and interesting game where Carlsen outplayed Grischuk. 

Chess was invented in India, but changes kept flowing back into India through the centuries. And yes the modern western version, was introduced to India during the colonial period, however prior to and concurrent to that, India has its own version, and appeared to have a professional body of chess players  (old east India company papers listed the deaths of prominent Indians, ‘chess player’ was the profession listed on several, also I ran across a book translated from Sanskrit to English written by an Indian which ‘adapted’ the original Indian openings to western chess)

Riight. And to truly appreciate Shakespeare, you have to read it in the original Klingon.

A Chinese person did not know that Chinese Chess came from in India, she thought it was invented in China. But she did know why the Elephants were there. Who fights with Elephants? India. I saw the movie Alexander.

Language.

refined

adapted, adopted

changed

invented means what the kids calls the "OG", the original gangster (gangsta?). Chess was invented in India. Its modern descendant may be from France.

Street racing was invented by the "OG's". It was invented during the Prohibition when the Original Gangsters bootleggers were running away from cops.

Drive-by-shooting was invented by the "OG's", during Prohibition.

Nothing is "invented" today.

Much of this hand-wringing over how much memorization there is in chess is completely divorced from the reality of professional chess today. Carlsen, for example, plays all sorts of openings as White, with the clear purpose of getting out of theory as quickly as possible.

There are quite a few professionals, such as Jobava and Ivanchuk, who play unusual moves as early as move 3. 

Chess is far more rich than most 1500s can imagine.

I doubt if they have any sense they will play out moves from Stockfish vs Stockfish. Stockfish is not yet as good as the best humans at openings and middle games.

In any case, chess is all about using the fixed initial position to produce creative situations where skill will be pre-eminent. Random chess reduces the skill factor of chess itself and makes it a very different game.

Joined 3 days ago. 

Have you seen the brainfish book ( cerebellum stockfish)? It is the book analysed with Stockfish mostly beyond depth 50.

There are millions of position on the book. I will be very suprised if you can find 1 in 10, 000 or 1 in million position where Stockfish played horrible position.

https://zipproth.de/Brainfish/brainfish/

Dont say Stockfish play bad in opening based on depth 10 analysis here or 10 sec analysis from your computer.

How to install brainfish

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-to-install-brainfish-the-best-chess-program-in-the-world

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess960-chess-variants/functional-exchanged-chess

The i.e.d.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/create-the-most-lame-piece-in-the-game?page=2#comment-46976770

Re OP: If you feel that this is a problem, why not switch games? Most people like it as it is.

< responses like this always come from closed minded purists, unable to accept their beloved game has huge flaws. 

When Fischer tells you that chess is done and that it's all memorization, I think we can take his view over anyone on here.  

I love memorizing moves. It 's so fun!

Develop skills to visualize, think about ideas and not moves, assess strength and weakness of position, look for best idea and not moves all the time and you will be playing by thinking not memorization.

"There are quite a few professionals, such as Jobava and Ivanchuk, who play unusual moves as early as move 3."   Yup, leave theory early and often.

Yeah for that reason i found that chess is boring and a waste of time

Opening theory is part of the game.

If we somehow undermine it or get rid of it, then I don't think many GMs would be very happy.

Chess history is bunk. Dice came first, then backgammon and chess, both games involving the number six. Dice chess led to gambling and it was outlawed in Islam and Christendom.