Chess needs talent

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Avatar of Leetsak

Lets face it, chess is something you either good at or you're not, most high level players started at a very young age, so they have advantage, which is they've played gazillion games, yes you can read books and watch videos, but all that does, is make it a memory game, If you lack the talent you're not getting very far. At low level most games are won in the opening, so go over the lines and memorize, wait for that blunder, pattern recognisiton comes with playing tons and tons of games, which means playesr who have played for 10, 15+ years are going to beat you most of the times, which in itself means you cannot learn chess, by playing chess, unless you've been doing that for decades. All the puzzles and stuff doesnt matter if you dont have a good memory. Prove me wrong

PS, keep your "you just suck, play more" comments out of it, lets just hear everybodys thoughts on that

Avatar of albacored

Chess is something you're good at or not? The wide spectrum of players on the ELO rating system would suggest otherwise.

What are you defining as 'talent'? What is this 'talent' derived from? How is it measured?

Most games at a low level are won in the opening? What is a low level? Do you have some statistics? Detailed analysis?

You can't learn chess by playing chess except if you play chess for a long time? In which case you can learn chess by playing chess by that reasoning. At what level has someone learnt chess? One could argue that if you know the basic rules then you have learnt chess. Yes you haven't mastered it, but you have learnt it.

There are plenty of existing threads about the role of memorisation in chess, whether chess has been solved, etc. Despite that you'll find several interviews with Magnus Carlsen (perhaps others) discussing the role of intuition. Is intuition based things we've already learned, even subconsciously?

Before asking others to prove you wrong, perhaps try and flesh out and substantiate your own argument a bit more. Maybe include references to some informational external sources rather than just your own one paragraph opinion.