Chess rating and IQ (oh no, not again)

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theoreticalboy
trysts wrote:

During the presidential elections of 2008, I was the only one protesting that didn't get tasered!


Funnily, lack of success in this field is one of the various contributing factors to my IQ of 5, which is a similar number to my true FIDE rating (did you know negative numbers had to be invented to assess my performance in a variety of fields?), and to my tolerance-for-this-topic rating.

Henster97

I couldn't find any decent IQ tests. One had 30 questions but I had to send them a SMS costing £5 ($7.74), one had 150 questions and I gave up at the 65th (and I realised that I would have to send them my personal details anyway), another said "thank you" at the end at that was it and another only had 5 questions.

So, I accurately gave myself an answer:

IQ: 1416

Chess rating: very good 

heinzie

You have to admit chess.com's Ireland flag looks a bit like Italy's. Confusing!

MrMusicalLion

I don't think IQ really measures intelligence, it just measures your capability at recognizing certain values/patterns.. it measures part of your intelligence, definitely, but I'm skeptical it really measures your intelligence as a whole, to any degree. For example, musical and artistic intelligence, are those measured by IQ tests?

Cystem_Phailure
echecs06 wrote:   IQ, Stanford-Binet, is a STANDARDIZED test. 

So what?   The debate has always been whether what it tests for really has anything to do with a measure of general intelligence.  Just because something is standardized doesn't mean it measures what is claimed.

Ziryab
restinpeace wrote:

Is IQ and FIDE rating related at all?


Absolutely. Both are relatively meaningless numbers.

That should be "are," as all the geniuses contributing might have noted already.

badkarma101

IQ is a very very complicated thing. It is not the number that matters but your skills in the area that pertain to chess. I would not imagine good verbal skills would be helpful for chess, but your written test scores would probably apply much more. Furthermore, it is a a better question to ask whether people are better at chess if they are good at abstract concepts or concrete concepts than IQ it self

Penmaenmawr

My IQ is 112.

kgst

IQ really doesn't mean much because there are so many factors that determine a chess player's ability, and two people with the same IQ may excel in different areas (one has a perfect memory, the other has great spacial thinking, etc.).


I feel like I'm a good example, I have a 135 IQ (Real test, the online ones aren't accurate AT ALL, they always show much higher than the true value so that you will share it with other people and bring more visitors to the site, etc.) and I am absolutely horrendous at chess, I simply lack the ability to see an opponents plan before he drops the hammer. Or maybe I simply haven't played enough, or I'm not as patient as others?

 

Who knows, but chess is just  game like any other, not a direct reflection of intelligence. If anyone plays enough games of chess they are going to be good.

shamonyou

Why is this a question to your interest?

Could it be the higher your IQ that you are less tolerant with others postings?

Do you think you are smarter than the average bear?

love and piece: Shamonyou!

skogli
shamonyou wrote:

Why is this a question to your interest?

Could it be the higher your IQ that you are less tolerant with others postings?

Do you think you are smarter than the average bear?

love and piece: Shamonyou!


 Just interested in how high IQ you need to become good at chess, if around average is enough there is hope for many of us Laughing

skogli

It would be interesting to know the IQ for the world top 10.

costag
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jaydeeuk1

Stephen Hawking is a clever bloke, but in a blitz OTB match, he'd time out before his first move was made Innocent

skogli

The norwegian GM Simen Agdestein (once on the top 100) said that he was not IQ smart, just chess smart. If it's more to do with memory it's not so strange that I'm so weak, I don't remember what I did last week...

i_han

hohoho......before you respected the IQ so first thing you must to do is respecting human life not from human reputation......because IQ come from human......

everyhuman had IQ......maybe one of that poor "victims" had good IQ .....maybe but who know?

skogli
i_han wrote:

hohoho......before you respected the IQ so first thing you must to do is respecting human life not from human reputation......because IQ come from human......

everyhuman had IQ......maybe one of that poor "victims" had good IQ .....maybe but who know?


 And what drug's are you using?

Farland

They've done studies on this exact question.  Look them up.  The findings?  There seems to be no correlation between IQ and chess.  What makes people good at chess?  Deliberate practice.  Note that playing chess is not the same thing as practicing chess.  The 10,000 hour rule is in full effect here.

goldendog
Farland wrote:

The 10,000 hour rule is in full effect here.


Ooooh..no one told me there'd be math.

vowles_23

As far as IQ tests online go, I think this one might be accurate? Thoughts?

http://www.intelligencetest.com/