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11hub: Daily Chess rating is 'correspondence chess'. You have days to complete each move.  I *think* it's OK to use databases but not a computer engine for those. I'd love some official comment or reference to chess.com's rules for daily chess and databases.  I never use them in it b/c well... it smells like cheating and I don't see the point of playing chess if one's going to cheat. My rating is mine. And I really play against my own mind. 

Regarding playing a computer that claims to be 1400.  Chess.com doesn't have a lot of data about how a chess.com rating translates to a USCF or FIDE rating.  Some studies have been done, but they are old and I don't know how accurate they were. What you can know from your rating is that after you play ~20 games, your rating will be pretty accurate as a predictor of your performance against other players who have played ~20 games.  The way the math works out is you have a 50% chance of beating someone at the same rating. I'm not so sure about the odds vs someone 100 points higher but in my own games I win about 45% (?) of the games vs +100 rated players. The ratings system used here is a form of the ELO rating system which is accurate enough for betting agents to actually figure odds for matches and make money the same way a casino does. I'm fascinated with how accurate the rating system is. 

However... the rating system doesn't take into account 'life agro'.  Such as the kids or an invalid mother-in-law interrupting a game for something. So if you are playing someone who suffers from life aggro, you may have a bit of trouble if they are playing in a situation where there is no life aggro.

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AWSmith61 wrote:

Regarding playing a computer that claims to be 1400.  Chess.com doesn't have a lot of data about how a chess.com rating translates to a USCF or FIDE rating.  Some studies have been done, but they are old and I don't know how accurate they were. What you can know from your rating is that after you play ~20 games, your rating will be pretty accurate as a predictor of your performance against other players who have played ~20 games.  The way the math works out is you have a 50% chance of beating someone at the same rating. I'm not so sure about the odds vs someone 100 points higher but in my own games I win about 45% (?) of the games vs +100 rated players. The ratings system used here is a form of the ELO rating system which is accurate enough for betting agents to actually figure odds for matches and make money the same way a casino does. I'm fascinated with how accurate the rating system is. 

 

With regards to this fragment; you are expected to win 36% of the time against opponents rated exactly 100 points higher than you.  The probability of winning is 0.36. Winning about 45% against a pool of opponents would mean, on average, you are rated ~35 elo lower. 

 

If there is a 200 or 300 rating gap the probability of winning slims to 0.24, respectively 0.15.

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AWSmith61 wrote:

11hub: Daily Chess rating is 'correspondence chess'. You have days to complete each move.  I *think* it's OK to use databases but not a computer engine for those. I'd love some official comment or reference to chess.com's rules for daily chess and databases.  I never use them in it b/c well... it smells like cheating and I don't see the point of playing chess if one's going to cheat. My rating is mine. And I really play against my own mind. 
...

 

https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444879-fair-play-on-chess-com-what-you-need-to-know

 

Basically, for Daily, no engines, tablebases, or actual people giving you moves. Books, databases (that don't contain a bunch of numerical computer evaluations and are mostly human vs human games), videos, magazines, etc are allowed to be referred to in ongoing games.

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i don't know the answer to the question

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Wine has its own rating system

And donuts too

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hahahaaa

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Beim Training habe ich das Problem: der Computer antwortet nicht auf meine richtige Lösung und wertet mir dafür 0. Wie kann man das Problem lösen?

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
AWSmith61 wrote:

11hub: Daily Chess rating is 'correspondence chess'. You have days to complete each move.  I *think* it's OK to use databases but not a computer engine for those. I'd love some official comment or reference to chess.com's rules for daily chess and databases.  I never use them in it b/c well... it smells like cheating and I don't see the point of playing chess if one's going to cheat. My rating is mine. And I really play against my own mind. 
...

 

https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444879-fair-play-on-chess-com-what-you-need-to-know

 

Basically, for Daily, no engines, tablebases, or actual people giving you moves. Books, databases (that don't contain a bunch of numerical computer evaluations and are mostly human vs human games), videos, magazines, etc are allowed to be referred to in ongoing games.

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About, the rating system, I used to play a lot. At the time, I wasn't so great and my rating stayed 1200-1400. 

 

Now, my USCF rating has been in the 1400s, which should translate to 1600 here? I don't play that much, and I'm finding the system frustrating.

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Rigged!
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If you chess rating is wrong, try GO or Bridge or Golf...

The rating system is very precise and will indicate your chance of beating a higher rated player.

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Squarely wrote:

If you chess rating is wrong, try GO or Bridge or Golf...

The rating system is very precise and will indicate your chance of beating a higher rated player.

I'm not trying GO or Bridge or Golf... I'm trying to get better at chess.

I don't play as much as I study positions and tactics. But I need to play to get better, and I want to be able to verse better people...

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who cares about ratings? they are just numbers

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Eleanor2003 wrote:

who cares about ratings? they are just numbers

I've been trying to get at this... they determine who you play. The higher your rating, the higher the level of your player. The better you get.

 

It isn't about looking good. It's about playing better people in order to get better.

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thank you

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This is no use...

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Yessssssssss......finally won my 1st chess game ever!!! Ok it was against the computer level was only on 2 but who cares lol

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No dfv, I just decided to put more effort into learning this game.  thanks

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 USCF rating against real people... chess.com rating is against a lot of computer hidden/cheat players, therefore your chess.com rating is lower..