Chess Will Never Be Solved. Why?

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not_cl0ud

In practice, however, chess cannot be solved because it’s beyond the capacity of any human mathematicians and beyond the capabilities of computers. There are 10120 potential variations of games in chess and around 1043 different potential positions on the board. To fully solve chess, every single one of these must be compared against the other.

not_cl0ud
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
There is a dumpster fire of a thread that’s almost as old as I am that is about half discussing every possible nuance of this issue, and half insults. If you have the stomach for it, you can search “chess is a draw” and look for the steamy stench wafting above it.

lol

playerafar
ChessFlair01 wrote:

wow 435 posts

Yes but the other forum on this subject also active - 
and it has over 3400 posts !
But they're mostly the same thing ...
a particular person trying to conceal the limited speed of computers with the word 'nodes' and trying to assert 'taking the square root' of a gigantic number of positions to be solved to re-define the task.
'Taking the square root' "reduces" the task to a millionth of a trillionth of its previous size.
It would be like you suggesting to a house seller to reduce the million dollar selling price of his home to one thousand dollars -
to 'make things easy'.
(One thousand is the square root of one million)
Yes - 'Square business!'   Triple pun intended.  

mpaetz
ChessFlair01 wrote:

In practice, however, chess cannot be solved because it’s beyond the capacity of any human mathematicians and beyond the capabilities of computers. There are 10120 potential variations of games in chess and around 1043 different potential positions on the board. To fully solve chess, every single one of these must be compared against the other.

     A daunting task indeed, but consider all the things that you can do with a hand-held device today that the supercomputers of 50 years ago could not do; you can't say with certainty that 23rd-century computers will not be up to the challenge.

not_cl0ud
mpaetz wrote:
ChessFlair01 wrote:

In practice, however, chess cannot be solved because it’s beyond the capacity of any human mathematicians and beyond the capabilities of computers. There are 10120 potential variations of games in chess and around 1043 different potential positions on the board. To fully solve chess, every single one of these must be compared against the other.

     A daunting task indeed, but consider all the things that you can do with a hand-held device today that the supercomputers of 50 years ago could not do; you can't say with certainty that 23rd-century computers will not be up to the challenge.

duh

not_cl0ud
playerafar wrote:
ChessFlair01 wrote:

wow 435 posts

Yes but the other forum on this subject also active - 
and it has over 3400 posts !
But they're mostly the same thing ...
a particular person trying to conceal the limited speed of computers with the word 'nodes' and trying to assert 'taking the square root' of a gigantic number of positions to be solved to re-define the task.
'Taking the square root' "reduces" the task to a millionth of a trillionth of its previous size.
It would be like you suggesting to a house seller to reduce the million dollar selling price of his home to one thousand dollars -
to 'make things easy'.
(One thousand is the square root of one million)
Yes - 'Square business!'   Triple pun intended.  

lol

playerafar

'1043' needs to be re-typed.
The exponent sign is missing in the middle.
If it was 1043 then chess would have been solved more than three hundred years ago - before the Darth times - and the Empire ...
and long before they had Bounty paper towels and Charmin bathroom tissue ...
and ...  Smoothies  !!

not_cl0ud
playerafar wrote:

'1043' needs to be re-typed.
The exponent sign is missing in the middle.
If it was 1043 then chess would have been solved three hundred years ago -
before they had Bounty paper towels and Charmin bathroom tissue ...
and ...  Smoothies  !!

yum

playerafar


Edited - added Darth times and ...  the Empire.

not_cl0ud
playerafar wrote:


Edited - added Darth times and ...  the Empire of dinosaurs

 

playerafar


Hey - 'Doctoring' ... that's a Darth move.

not_cl0ud
playerafar wrote:


Hey - 'Doctoring' ... that's a Darth move.

?

playerafar


You changed the text in a quote.

playerafar


Now don't get Serious on me.
I just Cheerfully pointed out what you Did !

not_cl0ud
playerafar wrote:


Now don't get Serious on me.
I just Cheerfully pointed out what you Did !

lol

not_cl0ud

THIS TOPIC COPIED US

Chess will never be solved, here's why - Chess Forums - Chess.com

playerafar


This might sound nasty - but another forum could be made ...

where certain kinds of nodes/squareroot spam is blocked ...
and there's warnings about blocking 'you're all idiots' spam.

But its paradoxical.  Because 'Devil's Advocate' and crazy positions can often stimulate disagreement which leads to the real science being posted instead of the pseudoscience and mainly personal stuff.

not_cl0ud
playerafar wrote:


This might sound nasty - but another forum could be made ...

where certain kinds of nodes/squareroot spam is blocked ...
and there's warnings about blocking 'you're all idiots' spam.

But its paradoxical.  Because 'Devil's Advocate' and crazy positions can often stimulate disagreement which leads to the real science being posted instead of the pseudoscience and mainly personal stuff.

yes

not_cl0ud

ok back on track

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