Chess will never be solved, here's why

it actually has been proven with the engines we have. play a game of chess stockfish vs stockfish. it will eventually lead to a draw

Not anymore, but that syntax works in several languages.

You probably ought to skim the previous 500+ pages before you start down this road.

oh right c#, java, etc

no thanks 🙏💀

do tell what on earth happened while i was gone, and how yall started arguing

That you can read on your own...I am talking about making statements like "chess is a proven draw because Stockfish draws itself".

i say stockfish because it is the strongest thing we can get

It's one of the strongest engines, currently, but it's not the perfect chess player.

The argument could easily be made that it simply can't convert the advantage white starts with effectively enough.

And a stronger version of it comes out frequently, underscoring the fact that is it imperfect and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

yes that is why i said it's the strongest we can get, so, what i said a page ago, SO FAR, chess is a draw with perfect play

Two things:

One: Stockfish isn't the strongest we can get. It's the strongest that currently exists, and stronger versions will continue to be released.

Two: Stockfish isn't perfect play; you can't say that chess is a draw with perfect play because the current strongest engine draws against itself. You can only say that once an engine that does play perfectly exists, if it draws against itself.

that is why i said "so far"

You said "it actually has been proven with the engines we have. play a game of chess stockfish vs stockfish. it will eventually lead to a draw".

I am saying that isn't a proof, because Stockfish doesn't play chess perfectly and thus cannot be used to judge perfect chess.

"with the engines we have" is a key part in my sentence

But that's not a proof.

You said "it has actually been proven". It has not been proven, as I have just explained.

BigChess the NewKid made thoughtless judgements without having info about the O-person being blocked in three big forums by Elroch and Dio.
Also BigChess made false accusations about my posting about chess here.
If he had been watching he would have seen my proofs about a factor of 500 for time taken multiplying itself in as pieces are added to the tablebases.
So he didn't know and made the accusation or did know and did so.
Either way - he lied.
So BigChess is thoughtless and lies and acts out on it - in other words his posts are idiotic. Therefore there is about zero obligation to read them.
Becoming more and more established.
But BC 'sees himself' in the O-person's foolish narcissism.
Explains why he wanted to suck up to O ...
But that dynamic seems to be 'having difficulties' now.

Your also a troll though please talk normally and not be rage inducing

Playerafar can do better than be a measly insulting troll lol

Btw I asked him "why play no chess only talk on forums"

He gaslighted me and tried to clame hypocrisy lol  He has problem of "feeding" the people he thinks are trolls