i hate it stupid
Chess will never be solved, here's why
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Jun 11, 2024
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#8983
"No that isn't so. You misapplied the idea of cognitive relativity."
thats not a logical argument, that is just you claiming im wrong without justification.
you claimed it as a rigorous proof. hence, it could be reapplied against itself.
Jun 11, 2024
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#8984
I perfectly understood your explanation, it's just literally "you are wrong because you are wrong"
"Chess cannot be represented mathematically either, according to someone who is far more qualified in maths than you have a hope of ever being"
except for that it literally already is represented, that claim is made by nobody. you do realize that computer engines use a mathematical representation of chess right?
Jun 11, 2024
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#8985
optimissed you claim that chess cannot be represented mathematically, so where's the proof of it. where's the math journal that contains the proof.
Jun 11, 2024
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#8986
""you're wrong because you're wrong" means that "I have a friend who says or I read somewhere that it can be solved and I'm just 13 years old and what I say is right!" That's what you're doing. Very, very incorrect."
actually no i can prove it from axioms.
nice false assumption bro.
Jun 11, 2024
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#8987
the thing is, is that you wont believe me, even when i do prove something from axioms, so theres no point in my putting in the effort to do so.
you wont believe me simply because im saying something you dont like.
its hilarious how you didnt even bother trying to defend the "you're wrong because you're wrong" claim.
there's been times where ive pointed out that tygxc is doing literally the equivalent of 1+1=3 and you've called me wrong to point that out because i presume you didnt like how i was saying it.
You will never be able to have 2 kingdoms in Chess
Think of black and white as their own kingdoms
In real life the only way to get another kingdom is to kill the other ones king in a battle
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Jun 11, 2024
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#8999
Optimissed wrote:
Since it can't be represented mathematically, that's the mathematical route closed, so how will you solve it? Set a computer going and in a trillion years, retreive more information than will fit in a solar system and make sense of it? You don't know how ridiculous that is, clearly. The people who say chess can be solved are fools.
Yet the original question posits that chess will NEVER be solved. Certainly there is no practical method currently existing to do so, but only fools could claim that humans have reached a pinnacle beyond which progress, new ideas, and new solutions to seemingly intractable problems is impossible.
That was all considered in depth two or three years ago on this or that thread and I worked out that a solution would take billions of years. Later, other people reached the same conclusion. Then I started thinking about logistical problems if the solution COULD be found. How to retreive it. How to store it. Most importantly how to prove it's correct.
You can't. You really ought to attempt to think about it. I think that surrounding yourself with children and people with childish intellects (hesitate to use that word) you're getting yourself lost. I'm clearly far brighter than the lot of you put together but since I disagree with you, you fight against that realisation tooth and nail. If I agreed with you I'd be a hero.
Not even close. You are a Johnny-come-lately to the solving chess threads, a young whippersnapper in this case. Maybe you aren't aware that there were several other threads with hundreds of pages before this one and before Ponz's thread. It was already clear and discussed at length that it would take millions/billions/trillions of years a decade ago or more, not 2-3 years ago.
7 years ago, for example:
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/will-computers-ever-solve-chess?page=50#comment-33260912
[Note how even in 2017 people were trying to redefine what "solving chess" means...]
You really are delusional, and there's little doubt your declining memory is a big contributor on that front.