btw i left some parts out of tygxc's comment that were also fallacious, but since the argument itself was much different than tygxc's complete mockery of it, it would be too confusing for tygxc to comprehend, and hard for others to follow the right context.
MEGA we could consider a possibility that tygxc is quite capable of comprehending but doesn't want to and therefore doesn't intend to.
I think there's some Evidence of this.
Lol!
Martin yes
read through your reply to my post carefully.
Yes I used the word 'attribute' but it might have not been the perfect word.
'Variable' might be better.
Regarding White 'switching' whose move it is by going e3 e5 e4
the 'switch' move there was done before the position instead of after it.
And that sequence doesn't have 'two-fold repetition of arrangement' ...
its not a 'repeated arrangement'.
That's a 'different animal'.
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I also realized that theoretically there'd be ways for just one player to lose castling rights instead of both.
And I see there yes - your simplified arrangement with just three pieces on the board but that one arrangement could be over 100 'positions'
I'll mention again in passing - Karpov claimed a draw by 3-fold with Miles and got it but wasn't supposed to even though it was the same player on move in all three instances (required)
because castling rights had changed in the third instance.
Yes - clock and flag factors could be left out in a 'solving' project.
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But I'm still thinking that the tablebase principles could be used to make legitimate shortcuts when factoring in 3-fold and 50 move situations.
In considering the simplest three piece situations - you could start with no 2 fold arbitrated and zero ply of the 100 possible plies in 50 movers.
But then for the same arrangement of pieces with the same en passant and castling possibilities and who is on move - the next solving would be with the 2 fold already arbitrated with the correct player not on move so that the next move would/could cause the claimable 3-fold situation and then the next with a 99 ply arbitrated for the 50 moves ... and the next arbitrated with both.
The point is that that the lesser 'fold's and plies would be earlier in the 'game' but later in the process.
(yes for en passant to be relevant you need at least 4 men on board but that's technical)
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And that is 'murky' and maybe there is in fact no 'shortcut of progession' ...
but there's this:
in the three piece situation you gave - its a win for the side for the rook in most 'situations' whether he's on move or not and whether castlings legal or not.
The 'tough one' is the fact that he might not have enough moves left from the 100 ply to mate.
But then I'm thinking the side with the rook must have played awfully badly to have used up so many moves with no captures.
Martin I'm remarking in that arrangement you gave with just the two Kings and the rook
yes it can only be four if your only variables are who is on move and is castling legal or not.
But if you factor in - is threefold available by moving? (or actually its already 3-fold)
and you factor in - are 99 plies of 50 mover already arbitrated?
then you're getting more than four positions - and there's even more than that too.
Martin I'm remarking in that arrangement you gave with just the two Kings and the rook
yes it can only be four if your only variables are who is on move and is castling legal or not.
But if you factor in - is threefold available by moving? (or actually its already 3-fold)
and you factor in - are 99 plies of 50 mover already arbitrated?
then you're getting more than four positions - and there's even more than that too.
Yes. I did say 4 under basic rules with agreed draw and resignation rules removed. In that game there is no 50/75 move or triple/quintuple repetition rules.
playerafar you haven't played a chess game in a year
Not on this site.
I do tactics puzzles here though.
They're great.
I got so addicted I had to cut way back.
Found I get more out of them unrated with no timer.
I don't 'crunch forever' - if I'm not 'getting it' I make a move on principle and if its wrong its wrong.
And by being nonpaying I'm not tempted by endless 'tactics sessions'.
EK - I get my thoughts into posts.
If you don't like the posts you're not obliged to read them.
Suggestion: don't concern yourself about my chess games.
Its not worth it.
Reminder: This forum is about an obscure topic.
You're here voluntarily.
Right?
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And EK - I want to tell you - your posts are coming out in extremely small print.
You don't seem to be aware of it.
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And EK one other thing - you usually make very good posts.
Usually. I like your posts.
Usually.
EK - I get my thoughts into posts.
If you don't like the posts you're not obliged to read them.
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Er, how does he know if he likes them until he reads them?
EK - I get my thoughts into posts.
If you don't like the posts you're not obliged to read them.
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Er, how does he know if he likes them until he reads them?
Technical point Martin.
Not sure if you want an answer. There's multiple possible answers.
but I'll make one 'just in case'.
One can simply make a 'policy dislike'.
I don't like turnips or parsnips or eggplant.
Ekkkk.
That wasn't meant as a play on EK's initials though.
ha I only now notice the freeloading pay up & play
EK - have you thought about how much advertisers are paying chess.com to allow them to hit nonpaying members with their ads here?
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EK - and this next is meant as a joke
but if you want to be reading some really nasty posts -
this forum is a Mother Teresa room compared to the 'climate hoax' forum.
EK offline now though.
for some side fun ?...& since Goldbach was brought up ?...solve:
x^y = y^x
where x ≠ y...nor the 2,4 pair...nor non-integers
good luck all u math olympians !
assign: y = nx
do hobuncha manipulatives & u end up here:
x = n-1√n
y = n-1√n^n
then: pick any natural # ur charming little ♥ so desires...and x^y = y^x works !
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now...try: ∞ (lol !)
Is this thread filled with ENTPs?
Is this thread filled with ENTPs?
Maybe it was hit by an EMP pulse from a ten megaton bomb 50 miles up.
btw i left some parts out of tygxc's comment that were also fallacious, but since the argument itself was much different than tygxc's complete mockery of it, it would be too confusing for tygxc to comprehend, and hard for others to follow the right context.
MEGA we could consider a possibility that tygxc is quite capable of comprehending but doesn't want to and therefore doesn't intend to.
I think there's some Evidence of this.
Lol!
yeah, im not sure whether tygxc's complete lack of mathematics education or his intellectual dishonesty holds him back more.
btw i left some parts out of tygxc's comment that were also fallacious, but since the argument itself was much different than tygxc's complete mockery of it, it would be too confusing for tygxc to comprehend, and hard for others to follow the right context.
MEGA we could consider a possibility that tygxc is quite capable of comprehending but doesn't want to and therefore doesn't intend to.
I think there's some Evidence of this.
Lol!
yeah, im not sure whether tygxc's complete lack of mathematics education or his intellectual dishonesty holds him back more.
Lol! Hahahaaha.
Not what I meant. But ... Okay.
btw i left some parts out of tygxc's comment that were also fallacious, but since the argument itself was much different than tygxc's complete mockery of it, it would be too confusing for tygxc to comprehend, and hard for others to follow the right context.
MEGA we could consider a possibility that tygxc is quite capable of comprehending but doesn't want to and therefore doesn't intend to.
I think there's some Evidence of this.
Lol!
yeah, im not sure whether tygxc's complete lack of mathematics education or his intellectual dishonesty holds him back more.
Lol! Hahahaaha.
Not what I meant. But ... Okay.
my point was that i think its only partially true, because as he has shown he has no understanding of basic mathematics. his posts would be more varied if he had even a partial understanding and it was just stubborness holding him back.
btw i left some parts out of tygxc's comment that were also fallacious, but since the argument itself was much different than tygxc's complete mockery of it, it would be too confusing for tygxc to comprehend, and hard for others to follow the right context.
MEGA we could consider a possibility that tygxc is quite capable of comprehending but doesn't want to and therefore doesn't intend to.
I think there's some Evidence of this.
Lol!
yeah, im not sure whether tygxc's complete lack of mathematics education or his intellectual dishonesty holds him back more.
Lol! Hahahaaha.
Not what I meant. But ... Okay.
my point was that i think its only partially true, because as he has shown he has no understanding of basic mathematics. his posts would be more varied if he had even a partial understanding and it was just stubborness holding him back.
I think that most members including many teenagers and even some pre-teenagers are capable of understanding the logic and reality of what is really proven and comparing it with the unknown and unproven and properly distinguishing the two.
In a wide range of subjects.
I don't think tygxc is an exception to this.
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It is more like - he has chosen a path for himself.
His decision to make.
Like Washi in the climate denial forum.
Washi has chosen his path and mission and what he wants to do with his remaining time.
(Although tygxc might have much more time left to him than Washi does.)
tygxc is a hideous parser
parser tongues can't see or think holistically, pixel bit by pixel bit they pick
a 100% left brainer without any right brained skill, 100% just another boring Right hander ugh
it's nick pick this, nick pick that even when he's acting the helper
fancies himself a wise sage
yet this fish is literally & completely tone deaf
if you can't sing & play your comment you've got nothing
he's the color gray
great value chess
if you want to collaborate he's not the dude that's for sure
all he'll do is correct you ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
he' probably just a Virgo maybe Taurus on the Gemini Cusp
EK hi !
You might resent this but the robo-censor here is known to nail people for six consecutive posts.
Five? I don't know.
And you fixed the hieroglyphics of 11-point micro text!
Congratulations Good Sir !
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Regarding tygxc I don't think english is his first language.
Sometimes - tygxc 'loses his serenity' and makes a kind of outburst "they can't understand. They don't like the idea of 'solved'. They troll.'
But by and large he maintains himself.
tygxc is 1000 times the man Optimissed is.
But almost everybody is.
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Better to compare tygxc and Washi.
'Washi' is @ExploringWA. Denies climate science.
Possible reaction: 'Never never never compare people!'
Reply in advance: People often react vehemently when somebody does something they would not do.
Or says something they would not.
Or thinks something they wouldn't.
Or ventures into areas they'd avoid. Figuratively and literally.
Most people don't fall into that kind of 'beartrap of conceit' of 'needing imitation'.
tygxc is 1000 times the man Optimissed is.
But almost everybody is.
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Something a bit tacky about attacking people in threads where they can't respond. (Even people who do it themselves.)
tygxc is 1000 times the man Optimissed is.
But almost everybody is.
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Something a bit tacky about attacking people in threads where they can't respond. (Even people who do it themselves.)
Yes he can't respond.
But that's his fault. He did it to himself.
Point:
tygxc is constantly attacked or criticized.
Should he be?
In a personal way?
We make fun of him too.
Martin?
Is the fact that 'he can respond' make 'big red telephone' okay?
btw i left some parts out of tygxc's comment that were also fallacious, but since the argument itself was much different than tygxc's complete mockery of it, it would be too confusing for tygxc to comprehend, and hard for others to follow the right context.