chess.com for the blind

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Does anyone know if there is a way to play chess here if you are blind?

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Getting the site to SAY the moves would be easy.

Then there would only need to be a specialized GUI that could allow the user to type in their moves rather than clicking or dragging and dropping.

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In fact. Chess.com could add Blindfold chess to their choices of game types.

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I like the GUI idea kleelof.

I bet I'd suck at that chess version just as hard as I do in general.

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GUI means Graphical User Interface; basically it is what you can see that allows you to interact with an application.

Thanks Zarwan. As a developer, I know this would not be extremely difficult to implement. But I also know that Chess.com has many other more relevant things they want to implement/fix, so I'm sure it will not happen.

But it would be cool.

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I don't know if the International Braille Chess Association has any information concerning this - chess.com has an article on the subject and may have others: http://www.chess.com/blog/batgirl/chessboard-for-the-blind

Cheers!

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Thanks Strekoza.

I was thinking just for online play. Much easier, I think, than the solutions for over the board play.

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There are screen readers that can read all the text on a page or specific regions.

Blind people are quite resourceful and I'm sure many of them would love to play chess online if there were a great site like Chess.com available to them.

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Sure, I play games in blindfold mode all the time here in chess.com; in online chess and in live chess.  So far, I've managed one 25 move draw, I've also gotten 3 tactics trainers correct in alla ciela (blindfold mode), although the score dropped to 57 to obtain it, true stories.  Just go to the options mode and when you are chosing pieces, such as Alpha, or Book, scroll to the bottom and chose blindfold mode, it's rad, and a lot can be learned about how knights for example don't move in a clunky L, but an elegant cresecent; that there are "thick" and "thin" squares, holes you hadn't seen and so forth; it's really cool, actually.

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Someone just sent me this link:

http://en.lichess.org/blog/U5AX_DcAADkAz-L5/accessibility-for-blind-players

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nice thread, there is a "blind-chess" option on the site as a subscriber, but it's not as accessible for me personally. I wish I could have the option to turn off seeing my pieces or the oponents pieces, not having everything invisble. 

As someone mentioned in this thread for a blind person to play here they could have the audio of the move that was played. It would take some brilliance to keep track all that information for a person, but it's possible. 

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pullin wrote:

nice thread, there is a "blind-chess" option on the site as a subscriber, but it's not as accessible for me personally. I wish I could have the option to turn off seeing my pieces or the oponents pieces, not having everything invisble. 

As someone mentioned in this thread for a blind person to play here they could have the audio of the move that was played. It would take some brilliance to keep track all that information for a person, but it's possible. 

I did look at the code being used for the live games. I was thinking it would probably be possible to monitor the dynamic changes made to the HTML.

I was encouraged with this idea a bit when I saw someone had posted a video of an app that allows their computer to play blitz and bullet games on Chess.com. Not that I condone this, but it seems it would be using a similar technique to monitor moves.

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Well, you could download the chess commentator extension
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kleelof wrote:

Getting the site to SAY the moves would be easy.

Then there would only need to be a specialized GUI that could allow the user to type in their moves rather than clicking or dragging and dropping.

That feature is available in lichess

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Let's make Chess.com the most accessible site to play chess!

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Yes. We blind players have been asking chess.com to address accessibility for screen readers to be able to play chess here for well over a decade. Lichess.org has managed to make their games accessible to us. Not only can we play games there, we can even watch other games live while they're being played. Oh, and for the record, Lichess is totally free, yet they've been able to go above and beyond for accessibility. Chess.com could do the same; they simply don't want to put in the effort. Shameful, really, and their attitude on the issue speaks volumes.