Chesscom's new Game review, what the heck happened?

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FIX THIS CRAP most annoying thing ever the old version was perfectly fine. I literally can’t even review a game now

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coreyharned wrote:

FIX THIS CRAP most annoying thing ever the old version was perfectly fine. I literally can’t even review a game now

What do you mean? Game Review works

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
coreyharned wrote:

FIX THIS CRAP most annoying thing ever the old version was perfectly fine. I literally can’t even review a game now

What do you mean? Gane Review works

Gane review works, but game review doesn't

No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money

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Just_an_average_player136 wrote:

No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money

It was never intended that review limited accounts could get around the limits by other members running reviews for them. That was fixed.

Game Review uses a lot of developer and staff resources, as well as server resources. That means a lot of money is spent for the feature and premium memberships unlocking features is below that's paid for

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
Just_an_average_player136 wrote:

No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money

It was never intended that review limited accounts could get around the limits by other members running reviews for them. That was fixed.

Game Review uses a lot of developer and staff resources, as well as server resources. That means a lot of money is spent for the feature and premium memberships unlocking features is below that's paid for

And they only decided to change it recently?

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No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money
It was never intended that review limited accounts could get around the limits by other members running reviews for them. That was fixed.

Game Review uses a lot of developer and staff resources, as well as server resources. That means a lot of money is spent for the feature and premium memberships unlocking features is below that's paid for

Avatar of Just_an_average_player136
Termimatr_X wrote:

No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money
It was never intended that review limited accounts could get around the limits by other members running reviews for them. That was fixed.

Game Review uses a lot of developer and staff resources, as well as server resources. That means a lot of money is spent for the feature and premium memberships unlocking features is below that's paid for

What did you even change...

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Just_an_average_player136 wrote:
Termimatr_X wrote:

No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money
It was never intended that review limited accounts could get around the limits by other members running reviews for them. That was fixed.

Game Review uses a lot of developer and staff resources, as well as server resources. That means a lot of money is spent for the feature and premium memberships unlocking features is below that's paid for

What did you even change...

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Just_an_average_player136 wrote:

And they only decided to change it recently?

Yes, a couple of months ago I think. It was partially prompted by someone setting up a site for members to essentially run infinite reviews.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
Just_an_average_player136 wrote:

No but seriously why did they change it so you need to use another game review on an old reviewed game

Also I'm pretty sure back then I could game review a game that someone else already reviewed for free

Is it all for money

It was never intended that review limited accounts could get around the limits by other members running reviews for them. That was fixed.

Game Review uses a lot of developer and staff resources, as well as server resources. That means a lot of money is spent for the feature and premium memberships unlocking features is below that's paid for

What's wrong with members with premium wanting to be nice and reviewing games for people?

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TheAuthorOfChickens wrote:

What's wrong with members with premium wanting to be nice and reviewing games for people?

If you worked somewhere where you got free drinks, would it be acceptable to give all your friends free drinks?

Running reviews utilizes resources. As mentioned, there was at least one instance where a whole site was set up to run reviews utilizing the ability, so anyone could get unlimited reviews, regardless of membership tier. It was never intended that should be possible.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
TheAuthorOfChickens wrote:

What's wrong with members with premium wanting to be nice and reviewing games for people?

If you worked somewhere where you got free drinks, would it be acceptable to give all your friends free drinks?

Running reviews utilizes resources. As mentioned, there was at least one instance where a whole site was set up to run reviews utilizing the ability, so anyone could get unlimited reviews, regardless of membership tier. It was never intended that should be possible.

Guess you never got a buy-back at a bar, Martin. You must either be a bad tipper or a bad drinking buddy. Either way, I'm not surprised.

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Bobby.

Guess you never got a buy-back at a bar, Martin. You must either be a bad tipper or a bad drinking buddy. Either way, I'm not surprised.

I rarely drink, very rarely visit bars. That said, if a bartender was giving out tens of thousands of free drinks and only a small percentage of the recipients ever bought one then that person wouldn't likely keep a job. 🤔

Of course, the analogy isn't exact as the free drink giver here isn't a chess.com employee; it's more like someone buying a drink at the bar reaches over the counter an gets a bunch of free drinks for their friends.

The site has been known to give out short term memberships, or unlocking some features for otherwise limited tiers for a period. That's more along the line of your example.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
TheAuthorOfChickens wrote:

What's wrong with members with premium wanting to be nice and reviewing games for people?

If you worked somewhere where you got free drinks, would it be acceptable to give all your friends free drinks?

Running reviews utilizes resources. As mentioned, there was at least one instance where a whole site was set up to run reviews utilizing the ability, so anyone could get unlimited reviews, regardless of membership tier. It was never intended that should be possible.

If running reviews utilizing resources, why must they be run again every time I want to review them? Seems watsteful.

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Ziryab wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
TheAuthorOfChickens wrote:

What's wrong with members with premium wanting to be nice and reviewing games for people?

If you worked somewhere where you got free drinks, would it be acceptable to give all your friends free drinks?

Running reviews utilizes resources. As mentioned, there was at least one instance where a whole site was set up to run reviews utilizing the ability, so anyone could get unlimited reviews, regardless of membership tier. It was never intended that should be possible.

If running reviews utilizing resources, why must they be run again every time I want to review them? Seems watsteful.

Interesting point. My guess is that it would prevent those with alternative accounts from getting the multiple usage of game reviews?

Then again, I am not a premium member to provide a fair evaluation or have a need of the reviews here when you could always upload it to LiChess

which does a fairly decent game review

Avatar of Martin_Stahl
Ziryab wrote:

If running reviews utilizing resources, why must they be run again every time I want to review them? Seems watsteful.

My understanding is they are cached server side for a while., but not stored in the database. I believe that is to allow for updates to Game Review and/or backend engine changes to give the best results on later reviews.

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DrNukey wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
TheAuthorOfChickens wrote:

What's wrong with members with premium wanting to be nice and reviewing games for people?

If you worked somewhere where you got free drinks, would it be acceptable to give all your friends free drinks?

Running reviews utilizes resources. As mentioned, there was at least one instance where a whole site was set up to run reviews utilizing the ability, so anyone could get unlimited reviews, regardless of membership tier. It was never intended that should be possible.

If running reviews utilizing resources, why must they be run again every time I want to review them? Seems watsteful.

Interesting point. My guess is that it would prevent those with alternative accounts from getting the multiple usage of game reviews?

Then again, I am not a premium member to provide a fair evaluation or have a need of the reviews here when you could always upload it to LiChess

which does a fairly decent game review

I use both sites’s game reviews for a quick and superficial glance, often seeking evidence that a fair play report seems appropriate. When I think a 1200 played far too well, and game review puts my own play at 1200, I know I’m being paranoid about my own unfocused play.

Serious analysis starts with human labor, supplemented by proper engine analysis such as you can create using ChessBase.

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Ah the classic double open bracket

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The Game Review feature is still so massively flawed that I don't understand why anybody would bother to complain. It's just a toy. (To be clear, reviewing games with an engine is not a toy. That is a real thing. But Game Review's attempt to make it human-like or more interactive is very inadequate.)