Chessmaster 11 vs Stockfish (Phone)

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premio53
Ended in a draw (15sec/move)
I have no idea how much faster my laptop is than my phone but if Droidfish is over 2500 then Chessmaster must be close to that.  I will play a few more games in the future.
 
DroidFish was running on a Kyocera Duraforce
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8928 Snapdragon 400
CPU Quad-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A7
 
Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition was running on a Toshiba laptop on Linux Wine
Processor Name AMD Other A6-4400M
Frequence 2.7 GHz
Cores 2 per processor
Cache L2 Cache:1.0 MB
Arhitecture 64-bit
Technology 32nm
Chipset

AMD A70M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

premio53

DroidFish won the second game.



premio53

Chessmaster got a draw playing Black.  I'll play one more to see if CM can even the score.



premio53

DroidFish won the last game making it the winner with 2 wins and 2 draws. I don't think there is any doubt that Stockfish is a stronger program considering it is running on much slower hardware but Chessmaster certainly is nothing to sneeze at after getting two draws in 4 games.  

If some programmer could come up with a "Natural Language Advice" feature and wed it to StockFish or some other up to date engine I believe it would be the perfect tutor for patzers like me.  I haven't seen any other program that even comes close to that feature found in Chessmaster.  They could make a lot of money investing in such software.



premio53

Here is an example of the "Auto Analysis" for the first few moves of the last game.

[Event ""]

[Site ""]

[Date "2016.3.26"]

[Round ""]

[White "StockFish"]

[Black "Chessmaster"]

[TimeControl "?"]

[Result "1-0"]

[ECO " "]

 

 

{Annotations by Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition Auto-Annotator. 10 seconds per move.

 

White Black

Book Move 4 4

Leave

Book 1 0

CMX Agrees 61 61

CMX Disagrees 2 1

Agreement Pct. 97% 98%

Total Error 4.83 0.00

Relevant Error 1.90 0.00

Missed

Mate 0 0

Moved Into Mate 0 1

 

}

1.e4

{B00 King's Pawn Opening. The King's Pawn opening move is both popular and logical. It controls the center, opens lines

for both the Queen and the Bishop, and usually leads to an open game in which tactics, rather than slow maneuvering,

predominates.}

1...e5

{C20 King's Pawn Game. Black responds symmetrically, making a direct challenge to the central squares.}

2.d4

{C20 Center Game. An early d4 in the King's Pawn openings has always been considered premature. But it does lead to

active, direct play.}

2...exd4

{C21 Center Game / Accepted. 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qe3 Nf6 yields a position with 13% better prospects for BLACK. 3.Qxd4

Nc64.Qa4 Nf6 5.Bg5 is interesting but largely untested. 3.c3 dxc3 has wild statistical swings after both 4.Nxc3 and 4.Bc4 but is

not for the faint hearted player (of either side). The tame 3.Nf3 Nc64.Nxd4 Nf6 may be the safest for White.}

3.c3

{C21 Center Game / Accepted / Danish Gambit. The Danish Gambit takes the Center Game one step further: One or two pawns

are successively sacrificed to gain control of the center and develop rapidly.}

3...d5

{C21 Center Game / Accepted / Danish Gambit / Declined. Declining the gambit is a safe route to an equal game.}

4.exd5

{C21 Center Game / Accepted / Danish Gambit / Declined.}

4...Qxd5

{C21 Center Game / Accepted / Danish Gambit / Declined.}

5.Nf3

{Out of Opening Book. cxd4 would have been in the Center Game / Accepted / Danish Gambit / Declined opening line. Frees

White's pawn at g2 from the pin.

 

5...Bg4

{Pins White's knight at f3.}

6.Be2

{Releases the pin on White's knight at f3 and enables the short castle.}

6...d3

{Attacks White's bishop at e2 and creates a passed pawn on d3.}

7.Bxd3

{ White wins a pawn. Material is even.}

7...Nc6

{Clears the way for a queenside castle.}

8.Qe2+

{Checks Black's king.}

8...Be7

{Protects Black's king.}

9.Be4

{Attacks Black's queen.}

9...Qd7

{Moves it to safety.}

10.O-O Nf6

{Enables the short castle.}

11.Bxc6

{Pins Black's bishop at e7, partially pins Black's pawn at b7 and Black's queen, forks Black's queen and Black's pawn

at b7, and blocks Black's pawn at c7.}

11...Qxc6

{Frees Black's pawn at b7 from the pin and removes the threat on Black's pawn at b7. Black wins a bishop for a

knight. Material is even.}  

EscherehcsE

I can sort of get Stockfish to work in Chessmaster 10. I was able to import Stockfish 7 32-bit into CM using a Polyglot adapter. (I don't think 64-bit engines will import into CM.) There's a trick you can use to get CM to auto-annotate using the Stockfish engine. (The auto-annotation text still says CMX, but if you look at the task manager, you can see that Stockfish is actually running during the auto annotation process.)

 

The one BIG disadvantage is that the mentor lines don't work with any imported engine. I think the mentor lines only work with the CM engine, at least in CM10 and CM11. (The mentor lines may work with imported engines in CM9000). So, you can't actually perform manual analysis using the Stockfish engine in CM 10 (and CM11, I assume).

hhnngg1

Chessmaster was well known to play at 2500+ strength on any decent computer, even as back as 12+ years ago. With modern laptops, it's going to be GM strength at minimum. No surprise here that it plays 'well'!

premio53
EscherehcsE wrote:

I can sort of get Stockfish to work in Chessmaster 10. I was able to import Stockfish 7 32-bit into CM using a Polyglot adapter. (I don't think 64-bit engines will import into CM.) There's a trick you can use to get CM to auto-annotate using the Stockfish engine. (The auto-annotation text still says CMX, but if you look at the task manager, you can see that Stockfish is actually running during the auto annotation process.)

 

The one BIG disadvantage is that the mentor lines don't work with any imported engine. I think the mentor lines only work with the CM engine, at least in CM10 and CM11. (The mentor lines may work with imported engines in CM9000). So, you can't actually perform manual analysis using the Stockfish engine in CM 10 (and CM11, I assume).

I don't understand why Arena, Tarrasch GUI, Winboard or some other program doesn't utilize a "Natural Language Advice."  Unless there is some kind of patent it seems that would be a very popular feature.  Chessmaster explains all opening moves and the strategy behind them in very clear terms as well as giving advice in middlegame positions in natural spoken language.