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Here_Is_Plenty

Sorry but we have to allow you the equality to take your beatings like the rest of us.  It is the only fair way to not oppress you with kindness.

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Scottrf

You were a bloke not so long ago.

Here_Is_Plenty

Affirmative, I have.  I have also heard of quasars but have no understanding of them, nor desire to encounter them on a social basis.  What value is there in chess without fair competition?  Sure, you can buy books, study aids, training, even a cushion for your chair; at the end of the day, it is you against the other person in a pure, level playing field, insofar as such a thing exists.  There is no better kit to wear while playing, no more powerful composite bow, no more-streamlined bike, no finer set of golf clubs.  Just the eternal and lasting knowledge when I lose that it is because I am inadequate.

VULPES_VULPES

What is chivalry?

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EscherehcsE

Can we get a mod to move this thread over to the panhandling forum? Tongue Out

VULPES_VULPES

I'm depressed all over again...

omar_kj
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TheGrobe
EscherehcsE wrote:

Can we get a mod to move this thread over to the panhandling forum?

With a more compelling sob story I hear its even possible to have the members here buy you a new house.

omar_kj
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aging_dragon
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omar_kj
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aging_dragon

Cool

OK then

Best Of Luck In Your Endeavours

Laughing

omar_kj

you too!

kiwi-inactive

Chivalry, perhaps another "sexist" word, it is certainly an archaic term usually upholded by people who feel that females require super -extreme protection from some fallacy of a notion of a knight in shining armour in all aspects of her life. If chivalry has died, one may say "good riddance", having said that this gives men no excuse to be rude, unpolite, disrespectful, irrationally dogmatic, vile and not understanding. Just no need to oppress or limit a womans options, nor would not upholding the "chivalry" system be a sufficient reason to be confrontational. This also is a two-way street, men and women should both strive to be the best they can be, including their mannerisms, I can't think of a reason why a woman or any human being would not like to be treated nicely, but some aspects of what chivalry is pertained to be is a joke. 

In the womens history study group, opinions are divided over whether feminists would like males to treat females with true equality within reason and if this is mutually exclusive of the idea that traditionalists want men to treat women on how they perceive is what is best for them. 

I may just take this opportunity to link my blog http://www.chess.com/blog/kiwi_overtherainbow/feminism-and-chivalry

I personally feel and believe the principles of feminism (should rename it to equality-ism Smile) surpass sex and gender, considering we are discussing chivalry, to me its just another traditionalist patriacharl method men employ to dehumanize women (intentionally or unintentionally), nothing wrong with just being polite understanding human beings for one another, regardless of gender, perhaps we should take greater with certain situations no doubt, but the whole ideology/concept whatever you wish to call it behind chivalry is based upon "this is how we should and must treat women", more focus on love and respect in a manner which befits both races fairly. I just feel chivalry opens up a cognitive though that women are just delicate and even incompetent to perform tasks. 

To sum up my "rant", I don't think it is fair for men and women to make females think or feel she needs to speak, behave, work and think a certain way and all other options or choices or routes are incorrect. We should have that right of simply being able to understand all our available options and allowed equality within reason and remember females are humans too, not some prize/trophy or pet or forever unsophisticated toddlers requiring guidelines and rules 24/7 to tell us how to be by the opposite gender till death. It would be nice and polite of men to say offer a jacket on a cold winters night etc, but not because he sees her as some sort of "prize", more for the reason it was the right thing to do. After all that is said special treatment is lovely, who in their right mind wouldn't like extra attention or loving, but the perceptions and approach to chivalry need to be challenged, more so on gender roles as it leads to what I feel an imbalance of treatment. 

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Mr_Tarkanian

Is it just me or did everyone else want to heave their lunch into a bucket when you keep reading the signature "Love, Jessica Omar" at the end of every post? 

Thank goodness, that ceased.  My wrists no longer have to be slit. :)