"You agreed to the time control" is a common one, but seems like a facile argument.
Both players agreed to play a chess game. If my opponent stops playing for 3 (or 30) minutes it's understandably upsetting. If my opponent thinks for 3 (or 30) minutes in a difficult position, that's understandably no problem at all.
I actually luv clock-sucking bandits. I revel in their mizery 'cuz I don't win that many games anywayz.
i play 15 to 20 minute games n these clock suckers are everywhere very annoying but im stubborn always wait them out its a game if you lose you lose its never nice but shit happens play or resign
"You agreed to the time control" is a common one, but seems like a facile argument.
Both players agreed to play a chess game. If my opponent stops playing for 3 (or 30) minutes it's understandably upsetting. If my opponent thinks for 3 (or 30) minutes in a difficult position, that's understandably no problem at all.
thank you, finally somebody is grasping this concept. I was starting to lose faith in the Chess community. It's not a difficult concept to grasp, the difference between somebody actually thinking for a long time about a move and somebody abandoning a game without your knowledge and you sit there wasting time until the clock runs out. Seems pretty simple to me.
This is serious...just had 2 in a row suck my clock!!
Yeah, so? Who the flip cares? I don't do it, but it's blitz. It's not like some of the cr@p I've dealt with in the past.
Try playing an over the board game against Marvin Barker in West Virginia. He goes around studying other player's openings and patterns, thinking he can prep for any opponent. Did it to me in Round 5 of the West Virginia State Championship in 2006. He saw I played Bird's Opening round 2 (had Black the other 3 rounds at that point, got White both rounds the final day), and tried to prep for me the night before.
When he realized he was dead after 22 or 23 moves, about to drop a whole piece, he just sat there for 36 of the 37 minutes he had left and did nothing, and was a complete a** about it when he did lose. He even got into it with the director.
So you want empathy for having to wait a whopping 2 minutes? Not gettin' it! Cry me a river! I myself don't resign in Blitz, but I don't stall either unless I'm legitimately thinking, which I do - I actually have 5 minutes ya know!
Get a life and find something more useful to post about!
Want some cheese with that whine? And things could be worse! What if they did something that entailed you removing an L from the last word used in describing what they did?
At a tournament in Auburn, Ca. a few years ago, I offered a guy a draw. He sat there for 30+ minutes, and when his clock ran down to 1 minute he accepts. So yea...I dont get to worked up when someone sits there for a few minutes online.
the difference here is he was sitting there actually thinking about his move, when he realized he could not make a good move he resigned. What a ding-bat you are!! Can you not grasp this?
Are you talking about me or Diakonia?
If you are referring to mine, don't go around calling me a ding-bat when you have no clue.
He realized in less than a minute that he had no out! He refused to acknowledge resignation, and actually proceeded to write "1" beside my name and "0" beside his own on the cross table. I asked the director if this means he resigned because he said nothing at the board and didn't stop the clock. He goes to Marvin Barker and outright asked him if he resigned, and he addamently said NO! He forced him to erase the result and go back to the table, where he sat there for 36 of the 37 minutes and then made a random move after what in my book was already a resignation, and proceeded to make moves that made no sense (even in blitz mode) just for the sheer sake of prolonging as long as possible. He sat there not even looking at the board or thinking about anything, occasionally checking the clock.
So don't go around calling people ding-bats when you have no clue what you are talking about and weren't there.
As for Diakonia's situation, I have done something similar before and that is more legit. I had maybe 15 minutes left to make something like 6 moves to get to time control and was offered a draw. I spent 13 to 14 minutes looking for a forced sequence that would assure me at minimum equality and I couldn't find it after 13 to 14 mintues time and so I did accept the draw. That's a little different than getting up from the table to write in a result, claim he never resigned, and then sit back down clearly not even acknowledge that the board and pieces are there until you are under a minute. Blatant and massive difference.
Not to mention, what says in your case that he was not sitting there thinking about his move? Mine is actually more valid than yours in that I saw it first hand, in person. You can't see what your opponent is doing on here unless you skype every opponent while you play them!
AS a newbie, when I recently started ,ithought it was 5 minutes between moves!
didn't take long to understand that wasn't for me
LOL this is awesome
This is serious...just had 2 in a row suck my clock!!
Yeah, so? Who the flip cares? I don't do it, but it's blitz. It's not like some of the cr@p I've dealt with in the past.
Try playing an over the board game against Marvin Barker in West Virginia. He goes around studying other player's openings and patterns, thinking he can prep for any opponent. Did it to me in Round 5 of the West Virginia State Championship in 2006. He saw I played Bird's Opening round 2 (had Black the other 3 rounds at that point, got White both rounds the final day), and tried to prep for me the night before.
When he realized he was dead after 22 or 23 moves, about to drop a whole piece, he just sat there for 36 of the 37 minutes he had left and did nothing, and was a complete a** about it when he did lose. He even got into it with the director.
So you want empathy for having to wait a whopping 2 minutes? Not gettin' it! Cry me a river! I myself don't resign in Blitz, but I don't stall either unless I'm legitimately thinking, which I do - I actually have 5 minutes ya know!
Get a life and find something more useful to post about!
Want some cheese with that whine? And things could be worse! What if they did something that entailed you removing an L from the last word used in describing what they did?
At a tournament in Auburn, Ca. a few years ago, I offered a guy a draw. He sat there for 30+ minutes, and when his clock ran down to 1 minute he accepts. So yea...I dont get to worked up when someone sits there for a few minutes online.
the difference here is he was sitting there actually thinking about his move, when he realized he could not make a good move he resigned. What a ding-bat you are!! Can you not grasp this?
Are you talking about me or Diakonia?
If you are referring to mine, don't go around calling me a ding-bat when you have no clue.
He realized in less than a minute that he had no out! He refused to acknowledge resignation, and actually proceeded to write "1" beside my name and "0" beside his own on the cross table. I asked the director if this means he resigned because he said nothing at the board and didn't stop the clock. He goes to Marvin Barker and outright asked him if he resigned, and he addamently said NO! He forced him to erase the result and go back to the table, where he sat there for 36 of the 37 minutes and then made a random move after what in my book was already a resignation, and proceeded to make moves that made no sense (even in blitz mode) just for the sheer sake of prolonging as long as possible. He sat there not even looking at the board or thinking about anything, occasionally checking the clock.
So don't go around calling people ding-bats when you have no clue what you are talking about and weren't there.
As for Diakonia's situation, I have done something similar before and that is more legit. I had maybe 15 minutes left to make something like 6 moves to get to time control and was offered a draw. I spent 13 to 14 minutes looking for a forced sequence that would assure me at minimum equality and I couldn't find it after 13 to 14 mintues time and so I did accept the draw. That's a little different than getting up from the table to write in a result, claim he never resigned, and then sit back down clearly not even acknowledge that the board and pieces are there until you are under a minute. Blatant and massive difference.
Not to mention, what says in your case that he was not sitting there thinking about his move? Mine is actually more valid than yours in that I saw it first hand, in person. You can't see what your opponent is doing on here unless you skype every opponent while you play them!
I understand what i brought up is different from what the OP is complaining about. The points is, you wait. Chess is about waiting, and patience. But if you dont have the patience to wat a few minutes maybe chess isnt for you.
I understand what i brought up is different from what the OP is complaining about. The points is, you wait. Chess is about waiting, and patience. But if you dont have the patience to wat a few minutes maybe chess isnt for you.
It's not about patience at all. No one ever gets upset about having to sit at a board and wait for a move. That's completely missing the point.
First of all, it's rude behavior committed with malice.
Secondly, there is practical value. In weekend swisses you don't have much down time. If games last a long time, you may literally have no time to eat before the next round starts.
I understand what i brought up is different from what the OP is complaining about. The points is, you wait. Chess is about waiting, and patience. But if you dont have the patience to wat a few minutes maybe chess isnt for you.
It's not about patience at all. No one ever gets upset about having to sit at a board and wait for a move. That's completely missing the point.
First of all, it's rude behavior committed with malice.
Secondly, there is practical value. In weekend swisses you don't have much down time. If games last a long time, you may literally have no time to eat before the next round starts.
Unless you know for a fact why someone isnt moving, its rude to just assume they quit. Sure it happens, and that is part of online chess unfortunately. But these constant posts about my time being wasted is ridiculous.
You have a choice. You either play online and deal with the quitters, or you dont play online. But to just assume that every time someone doesnt move they have quit is wrong. You have no idea what is going on on the other end of that connection.
Sure, the practical part of it is to find a way to deal with it. Watch a video on youtube, get up and go do something else, etc.
Jesus, that idea got stolen, and turned into a country song fast.
The title is pretty clever, I'll give you that.
True. For a moment I thought it said "Glock-suckers," which would have been offensive since it hints of violence, pistols, and suicide. I must have a violent mind.
Oh, wait... What did *you* think it said when you first read it? 
Sure, the practical part of it is to find a way to deal with it. Watch a video on youtube, get up and go do something else, etc.
And thats all im saying :-)
Sure, the practical part of it is to find a way to deal with it. Watch a video on youtube, get up and go do something else, etc.
And thats all im saying :-)
unfortunately in a blitz game you can't get up and go do something else because you don't know if the opponent will move or not. The only way you find out is after the fact, once their clock runs out, a message will appear saying "diakonia may have violated our fair policy and his account may be restricted". It's pretty sad that I have seen this occur so many times i have memorized the Chess.com warning message....
@thrillerfan - I get it that you play OTB tournaments etc. and that's all fine and dandy, good for you. The fact of the matter is I don't believe you. I have a really hard time believing anyone would sit there for 30 minutes unless they thought they may find a way out of the position. Sorry, your story doesn't make sense, other than to brag about how you play these OTB tournaments. Good for you buddy, we are all really impressed.
i hate worse when there is a lost position and they make one move every 45 secounds to prolong the loss they are the supreme clock suckers
haha agreed !!
The title is pretty clever, I'll give you that.
True. For a moment I thought it said "Glock-suckers," which would have been offensive since it hints of violence, pistols, and suicide. I must have a violent mind.
Oh, wait... What did *you* think it said when you first read it?
Instead of changing the first C to a G, instead remove the L and that's what I thought it said at first! LOL!
@thrillerfan - I get it that you play OTB tournaments etc. and that's all fine and dandy, good for you. The fact of the matter is I don't believe you. I have a really hard time believing anyone would sit there for 30 minutes unless they thought they may find a way out of the position. Sorry, your story doesn't make sense, other than to brag about how you play these OTB tournaments. Good for you buddy, we are all really impressed.
Clearly you are clueless.
It's not about a brag at all!
I have had moves that require over 50 minutes of thought. That happens.
However, like another poster mentioned, you can't see what is going on in an online game. I can see first hand the difference between my opponent making a move after thinking for 35 minutes, and my opponent making a moves after d**king around for 35 minutes for the sheer sake of prolonging the game and making a player sit there and wait when the position is clearly won.
And the main point is, from your posts 1 and 4, that with these shaningans that go on in over the board tournaments, if you expect any of us to have sympathy or empathy for you about someone stalling for a whopping 2 minutes, think again!
And you know what? Your whole speel about "not believing me"? Take the "L" out of the title of your post, and only those types of people go around saying that I don't tell the truth!
I play alot of Live 5 minute Blitz games. Recently have noticed there are too many clock-sucking losers here. You know the ones, as soon as they start to lose they don't resign, they don't make a move, they just let the clock run down and waste my freakin time!! I call these players clock-suckers. I think this is a very fitting term and am officially laying claim to coining this Chess phrase. Please feel free to use it when you encounter a classic Clock-sucking low life. I don't have time, and I'm sure none of you do either, to sit there and watch someone suck your clock while playing chess!! Has anyone else had this happen to them?
If you agreed to play 5 min blitz, you each get 5 minutes which equals 10 min. If your opponent doesnt move, you now only have to wait 5 min or less, so you actually saved time.
Hey I'm super impressed you can add 5 + 5! wow good job! Too bad the rest of your post makes no sense. How is staring at a board for 5 minutes after your opponent has left saving time? If you can make that somehow make any sense at all I will be floored...
That pretty much sums it up...on to better things.