Clock/Timer Being Manipulated

I've been here for a while and, this does not explain the move mistakes for designated spots.

I'll guarantee it does not just happen at the end of games, for those experiencing lag, but it's much more noticable then, especially if you are winning when it happens.

That said, the site is working towards a more distributed network for live games where members will connect to servers closer geographically to them. That should improve lag fo a lot of members.

This is already in place for some games on site and I imagine it should be available for all games in the not too distant future.

High speed networks do not mean there isn't going to be latency somewhere along the path between your ISP and the site. There is a lot of equipment the traffic flows through and every single one adds a little bit of latency and one or two hops with issues can cause a massive difference.

There are also things on the client side that can have a very large impact. A shared Internet connection with multiple devices active at once can also cause latency or packet drops.

At least this website is consistent. Your program CHEATS and MANIPULATES, whether you are a member or guest. I've noticed this both ways. And it is not only with time MANIPULATION, but also false moves and manipulation of attempted moves, stalling in favor of the opponent.

You have no excuses for this Mr. Stahl.

Learn to play by the rules of chess Mr. Stahl.

Any other way is nothing other than CHEATING in favor of your paying members.

That is no customer service and not fair to potential members.

You loose more than you gain !

The site doesn't work differently, from a game perspective, for paid or basic accounts. The only real difference is the absence of ads for premium.

Bringing this back up because it seems like the one comment to actually get into a plausible exploit. @Martin_Stahl you seem the most knowledgable here. You mentioned in response "Theoretically someone would get a minimal amount of extra thinking time, if they were under the allowed lag, but that's it.". That still sounds like a powerful exploit, no?

Not really. The site allows a certain amount of lag and any lag switching method would gain someone a few seconds over a game max, which for most people isn't going to be of any help

ruedisjp claims the lag compensations can be up to 15 seconds. Is that incorrect or an edge case? I'm not sure how lag compensation works. If you could use a bit every move, or use a 2-3 seconds to stack pre moves at the start of the end game, that would be a lot of help to those willing to exploit it. I could see players preferring not to be lag compensated, not sure if that outweighs players experiencing lag but this point seems at least debatable.

It depends on the length of the game ultimately.

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8615369-what-is-lag-forgiveness-why-did-the-clocks-suddenly-change

So if someone was purposely lagging in most moves they could potentially get more than a few seconds over the whole game but I'm guessing it's still not going to be enough to have an outcome on the game; i.e. the extra second thinking time in positions where it might be used isn't going to help.

I have witnessed on several occasions, CHEATING and TIME MANIPULATION:

BY CHEATING, I mean falsely moving of pieces. I needn't point this out by matches, as in my opinion, it is well known, perhaps enticed by your website Mr. Stahl.

Your excuses are just that, excuses without substance.

Anyone with the skills needed to play chess on your website, are well aware of the MANIPULATIONS and CHEATING being promoted by you and your website.

It is only a shame though, that your website is one that is mostly used by, but not to promote chess and the rules there of, but to make money by enticing and manipulating players and members.

If I look at the game and it doesn't show clock lagg

I'm gonna assume your bluffing and it was just server lagg. I have had both where it gives me an extra second or two and removed time cause of lagg

I have lost many games with the "touch and slide" way of moving a piece and I wish that I could opt out of this practice. Some of us are retirees with impaired motor control and pieces end up on an unintended square with the "touch and slide rule". ... or is the site deliberately moving my pieces to the wrong square for not oaying to play in the great "race to the

You can change it in the setting to make it just click instead of click and drag

... to the bottom

Thank you.

I would like to add Mr. Stahl, that your LAGG excuse is offered too often for these situations.

A majority of your LAGG excuses do not speak the truth, and those chess players who believe otherwise, are naiv and have not played long enough to recognize it.

I have witnessed on several occasions, that this website and program have cheated, either by clock manipulation (with and excuse of Lagg), illegal movement of pieces, or blockage of movements.

In any case, it is the "Illegal" and "Manipulation" of chess matches, most likely because it is their website and they (the owner and writers of the website) feel that they have the right to run chess matches as they see fit.

This leaves a bitter taste in the mouths of serious players, who are attempting to better their skills. This website and it's founders do not further the advancement of CHESS skills online, and the playing there of.

Lag aside, I’ve played 70,000 games on here and I have never once seen ‘illegal movement of pieces’ so not sure what that’s all about.

I'll wait until you experience this illegal movement of pieces, then we can chat.