Compensation Isn’t Enough ⚠️ Stop the Engine Abuse

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SPK1729

I just reviewed one of my games and guess what? Almost every move from my opponent was a best move. All of them. Zero inaccuracies. 😳

Later I got a message saying “fair play compensation” which means the system knew it was engine cheating. 🤖♟️

But that’s not the point. I'm not here just for some rating points back.
I want fair games. Win or lose it should be real.

Here’s the real question:
If Chess.com can detect cheating during the game or shortly after,
why not abandon the game right away?
Let the cheater get a penalty and lose rating
and let the honest player just get normal win points.

Why let the cheater play till the end and ruin the game?

Chess.com team please
✔️ Catch cheaters faster
✔️ Abandon games in progress when cheating is confirmed
✔️ Penalize the cheater and protect honest players

Anyone else facing this? What are your thoughts?

Checkmated-nate
SPK1729 wrote:

I just reviewed one of my games and guess what? Almost every move from my opponent was a best move. All of them. Zero inaccuracies. 😳

Later I got a message saying “fair play compensation” which means the system knew it was engine cheating. 🤖♟️

But that’s not the point. I'm not here just for some rating points back.
I want fair games. Win or lose it should be real.

Here’s the real question:
If Chess.com can detect cheating during the game or shortly after,
why not abandon the game right away?
Let the cheater get a penalty and lose rating
and let the honest player just get normal win points.

Why let the cheater play till the end and ruin the game?

Chess.com team please
✔️ Catch cheaters faster
✔️ Abandon games in progress when cheating is confirmed
✔️ Penalize the cheater and protect honest players

Anyone else facing this? What are your thoughts?

Well you try to do it? Like it is hard if you are trying to do it when there are more than 2000 cheaters per day making new accounts. There might be way to identify a cheater:
1. Look at there time finding obvious moves

This can be really good because cheaters need to look at the engine before playing a move. I have identified lot’s of cheaters with this idea

2. Look at there moves

obviously it is a good idea if they are playing ludicrous moves, or horrible blunders as many people might do, while cheaters won’t

3. See if they make weird looking blunders that a human will never do

This is really helpful because cheaters often make weird blunders so that he or she won’t get caught. What they are doing is for that 1 move, the actual human plays that move.

4. Look at when they joined

This is the first thing I would do if I was playing a game and there moves look silly or engine like. This is really important because if they joined 1 hour ago and they are 2200, then that person is 90% a cheater just with that fact.

Anna_chess11

I often encounter this, I like an opponent with a rating of 800-900 and he plays at 1800... no mistakes. And there is a rating of 200 and they use hints, and their accuracy is 98.3... Magnus sometimes doesn't play with such accuracy...

Checkmated-nate
Anna_chess11 wrote:

I often encounter this, I like an opponent with a rating of 800-900 and he plays at 1800... no mistakes. And there is a rating of 200 and they use hints, and their accuracy is 98.3... Magnus sometimes doesn't play with such accuracy...

Well I am going to tell you my man, when you are around 2200 lichess/2000-2100 chess.com, 15% of the games are cheaters.

SPK1729
Anna_chess11 wrote:

I often encounter this, I like an opponent with a rating of 800-900 and he plays at 1800... no mistakes. And there is a rating of 200 and they use hints, and their accuracy is 98.3... Magnus sometimes doesn't play with such accuracy...

Exactly, Anna. It's the same story for so many of us. You expect some blunders or inconsistencies at those rating levels, but instead, you're facing a tactical monster who never misses.

What makes it worse is not just losing, but realizing partway through that it's not even a real game. You're not outplayed, you're just watching Stockfish from the wrong side of the board.

I think fair play detection has gotten better, but Chess.com could really take the next step:
🔹 Live detection + auto-abandon for confirmed cheats
🔹 Rating protection + instant win for legit players
🔹 Stricter penalties for repeat offenders

We don’t want freebies, we just want the game to mean something. Win or lose, it should be a human experience.

Anyone else noticed if it’s getting worse lately or just more obvious?

magipi
SPK1729 wrote:

You expect some blunders or inconsistencies at those rating levels, but instead, you're facing a tactical monster who never misses.

But of course you can't show us an example game, right? Because they don't exist.

Lady_of_Valinor
SPK1729 wrote:

I just reviewed one of my games and guess what? Almost every move from my opponent was a best move. All of them. Zero inaccuracies. 😳

Later I got a message saying “fair play compensation” which means the system knew it was engine cheating. 🤖♟️

But that’s not the point. I'm not here just for some rating points back.
I want fair games. Win or lose it should be real.

Here’s the real question:
If Chess.com can detect cheating during the game or shortly after,
why not abandon the game right away?
Let the cheater get a penalty and lose rating
and let the honest player just get normal win points.

Why let the cheater play till the end and ruin the game?

Chess.com team please
✔️ Catch cheaters faster
✔️ Abandon games in progress when cheating is confirmed
✔️ Penalize the cheater and protect honest players

Anyone else facing this? What are your thoughts?

I have stopped playing regular chess because of this. I also know others that have also stopped because of the ongoing issue with this and how it is swept under the rug and how it is taboo to discuss or even mention. 

justbefair

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