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Not all my opponents on chess.com are real live persons! Some of them are computerised set up by the governing body. Is this not so! 

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 Sleeper account, is this not so?

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I actually think its low rated players thinking they cant possibly lose a game of chess, so it must be cheating.  Or..paranoia.

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yea they are computerised

 

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So you are thinking that your opponents are cheating, yes, possible.

But it is very inconvenient to copy the games, let the computer think, and put your result into the game.

So the chance is there could be probably only 1% of patheic losers. Otherwise normal people wont do that.

 

It is a tedious work, you know.

 

And guess what, after getting 2000 rating or 2500 rating,. chess.com wont pay the same amount of $ to you according to your rating!!

 

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I think he means chess.com has "fake accounts" that aren't real people yet their playing style mimics real people. This is to make us feel like there are more people here then in reality. There really is no evidence for this theory, however, and in my over 3000 chess games here, I only encountered one cheater
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Yes, Destroyer942 I do think so.  "Fake Accounts" they are not REAL PEOPLE, yet they are playing in the style of real people. These are fake accounts set up and run by chess.com. I feel really cheated if this is so.

I'm thinking should I throw in the towel. This does encourage cheating When I am playing an 1900rated player from Mongolia, I should be playing against him.... Maybe we should be introducing a voice recognizing start to each game?  

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drmrboss wrote:

So you are thinking that your opponents are cheating, yes, possible.

 

No, I think this is one of those conspiracy things where they think chess.com has a lot of 1200, 1300, 1400, etc bots that pretend to be humans.

 

Pretty weird idea, I know.

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Notice how the OP, and the two accounts that agree all have less than 10 posts total...

Funny how they all suddenly decided to post on the same day, and all in this topic...

Yeah.

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:

Notice how the OP, and the two accounts that agree all have less than 10 posts total...

Funny how they all suddenly decided to post on the same day, and all in this topic...

Yeah.

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notice how all of this cheating talk makes some people nervous ^^

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KIC8462852 wrote:

notice how all of this cheating talk makes some people nervous ^^

They're not talking about cheating, they're talking about replicants tongue.png

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president_max wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

Notice how the OP, and the two accounts that agree all have less than 10 posts total...

Funny how they all suddenly decided to post on the same day, and all in this topic...

Yeah.

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Where did you find such a picture lol

nice

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I think the OP has a much higher opinion of the chess.com programmers than is warranted (and that is no slam on the chess.com programmers). It is extremely difficult to make a computer actually play like a person and no one to my knowledge has actually succeeded in doing so, although some attempts are better than others.

When you weaken the way a computer plays, it just doesn't make mistakes the same way.

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RolandYoingco1 wrote:

There is no way to "feel" that an opponent is playing computer moves unless you think so highly of yourself

Naa, there are a few ways to tell during a game.

 

The easiest is a constant pace.

 

Another is either playing into every main line (if they're cheating with a book) or playing into main lines then deviating with a sub-par move (engines often find sub par moves in the opening). This is a big giveaway because no one is going to play 7 or 17 moves of theory only to deviate the way an engine would, all at a constant pace.

 

Another is when they play illogical moves that always work out tactically. Of course you have to be good enough to know what logical moves look like in the first place... and sometimes the engine will play reasonably so this one doesn't always work, but tends to work if you have many games to look at.

 

A big one is when they're winning, if they avoid easy ways to win. Like sacing an exchange for a super easily winning king and pawn endgame. An engine wont do this, but humans always will.

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tomasmart wrote:

Not all my opponents on chess.com are real live persons! Some of them are computerised set up by the governing body. Is this not so! 

Some of your opponents are being set up by FIDE? We need to help them immediately!

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The corruption in FIDE is actually set up by a clandestine wing of the World Backgammon Association to try to discredit it and make backgammon the dominant mind game in the world. The various bots set up here are actually placed by FIDE counter-operatives attempting to expose the backgammon elements within FIDE to purge them.

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macer75 wrote:
tomasmart wrote:

Not all my opponents on chess.com are real live persons! Some of them are computerised set up by the governing body. Is this not so! 

Some of your opponents are being set up by FIDE? We need to help them immediately!

Kirsan for president!

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I dont think is so hard to set up some bots pretending they are humans, just program stockfish to play at 5 depht or so