Controversial opinion - Chess strategy is extremely overrated

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andrewpalmer123

 

 

andrewpalmer123

FALSE

andrewpalmer123
Optimissed wrote:

Do stop being a twerp.

im not a twerp

batgirl
Optimissed wrote:

A superior position is one where the superior side has access to more effective tactics.

Strategy is therefore about improving your position or downgrading your opponent's position.

A position is improved when the pieces have better communication with each other and when routes are available to make co-ordinated attacks on your opponent, while the same thing coming from the other side is more difficult. Your opponent's pieces may work together well but the attack routes by your opponent may be more difficult and therefore slower than your own attack.

Strategy is therefore all about setting up potential attacks which either work quicker or are more effective than anything your opponent can achieve. There isn't really anything else, at least that I can think of at the moment. Sorted?

Makes sense to me.

andrewpalmer123
batgirl wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

A superior position is one where the superior side has access to more effective tactics.

Strategy is therefore about improving your position or downgrading your opponent's position.

A position is improved when the pieces have better communication with each other and when routes are available to make co-ordinated attacks on your opponent, while the same thing coming from the other side is more difficult. Your opponent's pieces may work together well but the attack routes by your opponent may be more difficult and therefore slower than your own attack.

Strategy is therefore all about setting up potential attacks which either work quicker or are more effective than anything your opponent can achieve. There isn't really anything else, at least that I can think of at the moment. Sorted?

Makes sense to me.

except its not that simple 

blueemu
andrewpalmer123 wrote:
FoxWithNekoEars wrote:

uhm.. ok.. could i know why it's false please?

simple the trick is to make your opponent think their winning and out of nowhere suddenly destroy them 

Is this how you earned your 300 rating?

Rhinocerotidae

lol

Rhinocerotidae

LOL

andrewpalmer123
blueemu wrote:
andrewpalmer123 wrote:
FoxWithNekoEars wrote:

uhm.. ok.. could i know why it's false please?

simple the trick is to make your opponent think their winning and out of nowhere suddenly destroy them 

Is this how you earned your 300 rating?

yes

andrewpalmer123

i made a new page

Immaculate_Slayer

Honestly, I think we should leave this to GMs and chess machines because I don't know if anyone on the forums has the proper authority to discuss whether or not chess strategy is either underrated or overrated

andrewpalmer123

nah

Immaculate_Slayer
andrewpalmer123 escreveu:

nah

how did you manage 100 rating

andrewpalmer123
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
andrewpalmer123 escreveu:

nah

how did you manage 100 rating

idk

Rhinocerotidae

LOL

llama47
Stil1 wrote:

I play using strategy and positional concepts, most of the time.

I only begin "calculating" when there's the need to consider a forced sequence of moves.

The rest of the time I try to put my bishops on strong diagonals, try to control important squares, try to improve my structure while trying to worsen my opponent's.

You know ... playing chess like a human.

Trying to calculate all the time, like an engine, isn't practical at all. Nor is it really required, to play decent chess.

This is how reasonably strong and experienced players play.

But also... I tend to think it would be a mistake for players under, IDK, 1600, to try to play this way.

Of course even a total beginner can (and should) be happy to put a rook on an open file simply because "that's where rooks belong," but the main mechanism of finding and validating moves for new/weak players shouldn't be abstract ideas like active pieces, it should be lots of calculation.

llama47

For example, I'm sure we've all seen something like this:

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In fact have any player rated below _____ annotate one of their games, and more or less every comment they make will be a lesser example of this tongue.png

(Rating given as ____ because I don't want to insult anyone... just use your imaginatoin)

andrewpalmer123

gms has nothing to do with this

Immaculate_Slayer
CooloutAC escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
andrewpalmer123 escreveu:

nah

how did you manage 100 rating

People should stop dismissing arguments based on rating.  I'm not even rated 400 but in my answers I quoted two super gm's.  Strategy plays a role depending on variants but it doesn't have much to  to do with the game itself which is mostly theory.    I think the OP believes it has to more to do  with "punching" an opponent because tactics  come into play when lacking theory.   

Lmao I didn't even dismiss his arguments I just asked use proper logic please

andrewpalmer123
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
CooloutAC escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
andrewpalmer123 escreveu:

nah

how did you manage 100 rating

People should stop dismissing arguments based on rating.  I'm not even rated 400 but in my answers I quoted two super gm's.  Strategy plays a role depending on variants but it doesn't have much to  to do with the game itself which is mostly theory.    I think the OP believes it has to more to do  with "punching" an opponent because tactics  come into play when lacking theory.   

Lmao I didn't even dismiss his arguments I just asked use proper logic please

you did