Could a 2000 rated player beat Magnus Carlsen?

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chessredpanda wrote:

well 2800 dont make blunders

At those stratospheric levels the meaning of blunder is different.

Mainline_Novelty
InfiniteFlash wrote:

2000s aren't good at chess btw

 

When you reach International master strength, you are a good chess player.

 

 

You have no idea how out of league we are lol

This.

chessredpanda

wha?this is out of leage you mean right.well of course

Thunder_Penguin

Unless that '2000' is Houdini, Stockfish, or Rybka, I seriously (99.999999999%) doubt that Magnus will lose or EVEN draw

chessredpanda

well the machine will act like 2000s aprox thinking.probaly would win though because why not??

ACookieJar

Maybe you guys didn't read my post... but a GM... yes... a GM.. lost to Magnus. Magnus had only 1 minute on his clock from the start and the GM.. yes.. the GM had 5.

Scala

NO

SmyslovFan

I've seen experts beat top 10 players in blitz. It's relatively rare, but it does happen from time to time, especially online where mouseslips happen even to the very best. 

I would give a master far better odds of getting a bunch of draws against a computer in a standard game than against Carlsen. Humans know how to complicate the game and avoid draws, computers don't have any special reason to avoid a draw, especially as Black.

A human +2200 could steer the game from the opening into a forced draw or into an even endgame in many lines. Unless the engine were set to treat a draw as a loss,  I would expect a +2200 human to score as much as 20 points against an engine, but only 5 or fewer against Carlsen in a 100 game match. Even a 2000 rated human would score at least 10 against a computer if all he wanted to do was draw as white.

MichaelBickley

I might have a shot against him if we were kickboxing.

spectralguy55

Of course a 2000 player could beat Magnus Carlson!  Everyone can make mistakes, and, last I checked, Mr. Carlson is still human, and thus fallable.  But, the odds of a 2000 player winning an individual game are rather poor, and the odds of winning a match of any serious length pretty much in the realm of the inconceivable.

spectralguy55
CP6033 wrote:

lets put it this way, could a 1000 player beat and 1850?


Back a few centuries, when I was a lowly 1400's player (USCF), I beat a senior master in a tournament game.  I was giving up roughly 1000 rating points, yet I won.  All it took was his being inattentive at the wrong point in time.  With the 1000 point rating difference, he didn't pay attention the way he should have, blundering in an otherwise won position.  I knew barely enough to take advantage of his blunder.  We are all mere mortals, and sometimes it catches up with us.  The same "could" happen to Carlson.  It just isn't very likely.

Scottrf

Carlsen isn't a mortal.

chessredpanda
ACookieJar wrote:

Maybe you guys didn't read my post... but a GM... yes... a GM.. lost to Magnus. Magnus had only 1 minute on his clock from the start and the GM.. yes.. the GM had 5.

where?

chessredpanda

this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nYwTWycVSM

chessredpanda

it looks like carlsen is white but is black lol

Melvyn-G

NO

ACookieJar

Sorry it was this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt3bVyTKv2U 

ACookieJar

not 1 minute vs 5 minutes but ...30seconds vs. 3 minutes. Even harder handicaps

chessredpanda

oh.he had one agains a girl that was30 sec

chessredpanda

didn't say