Could this be called a "royal pin"?

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GambitShift wrote:

 

You just did.

 

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But I was wondering if it is already an established concept or thingamajiggy in the chess world. Or did I invent it?

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I’m not sure what it is called but I think it is already a thingimagy
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No because a royal pin is when you pin a queen to a king @Gambitshift

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GambitShift wrote:

But I was wondering if it is already an established concept or thingamajiggy in the chess world. Or did I invent it?


I don't think it is as established concept as a royal fork, but quick look through chessgames database with games including a "royal pin" in the title, all 9 games referred to a position where the queen was pinned to the king. So I would agree with Dongdong328.

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nexim wrote:
GambitShift wrote:

But I was wondering if it is already an established concept or thingamajiggy in the chess world. Or did I invent it?


I don't think it is as established concept as a royal fork, but quick look through chessgames database with games including a "royal pin" in the title, all 9 games referred to a position where the queen was pinned to the king. So I would agree with Dongdong328.

 

But that doesn't make sense. If a royal fork is a piece forking the king and queen, the king has to move or the piece has to be taken. With the royal pin Dongdong328 described, the king doesn't have to move and the piece pinning doesn't have to be taken.

 

With that said, I did find a different kind of pin at https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1036692

 

They call this pin a "cross pin" which compared to the OP position could maybe make that a double crossed pin. But still the attack is singular, meaning the queen is in between the attacking piece/s and its king or another piece. Perhaps this is the key point for a pin. 

 

What I presented is probably something more like a cross as seen here.

 

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I don’t think so, I think a royal pin should be when one single enemy piece is pinned to both the king and queen. Although, this is certainly more common than the scenario Im talking about. One brilliant example can be found here: https://youtube.com/shorts/MNa0sXJ9HWM?si=nn7atSKyevLkaZdt