Countering the Scandinavian/Center counter defense

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27 April!

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You mean countering the Scandinavian when Black plays poorly? :D

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I agree. Black played passively and just let things happen not the best thing to do when attacked viciously

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pdve wrote:

I agree. Black played passively and just let things happen not the best thing to do when attacked viciously

Forget that,tell me how you went to the future first.

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My first reaction: Derail this thread and make it all about time-travel.

My final reaction: A nice game and you found some good shots (Nb5 had all kinds of cuteness about it!)   Your opponent should have played this way better than he should with an opening (one of my favorites) like this.  Then again, it is blitz and maybe he's just "trying it out" for a test-drive.


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Ummm, sorry for my ignorance, but WHERE Black did play passively? I'd rather say quite the opposite- he played actively, and riskily.

White's opening was a failure. Black simply had to take on b4 at move 14, when white does not have compensation- instead of the blunder 14...Qa3? which loses to the move played (15.Nb5).

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i think that's probably correct. b4 was a risky move though i wouldn't go as far as saying it is a mistake

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I used to play against this a lot, and for a while I used it as well. 

A nice setup, black castled into a strong attack and gave away his own attack pretty early.  The rook fleeing after capture gave white the tempo to clean house.

IMHO black should NOT take the pawn with the queen.  The queen becomes a liability as you avoid minor pieces and pawns. 

I would not have taken b4 as black.  The open file vs your king and with 2 bishops and a queen already pointed there?? Qe5 maybe, looking at Be4 if allowed after that.

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jonnin wrote:
I would not have taken b4 as black.

No worries- any patzer wouldn't.

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Taking the b4 pawn would have given me sort of initiative. Donno if that would be enough.

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lol, i love when the guys rated 1500 argue with the the guy rated 2300+.

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trigs wrote:

lol, i love when the guys rated 1500 argue with the the guy rated 2300+.

pfren is really rude. littleman syndrome?

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what are the numbers in the annontations meant to represent?

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Clemenz wrote:
trigs wrote:

lol, i love when the guys rated 1500 argue with the the guy rated 2300+.

pfren is really rude. littleman syndrome?

agreed. but he's usually correct.

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To be honest, I don't pay the slightest fook about what retards think about me.

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trigs wrote:
Clemenz wrote:
trigs wrote:

lol, i love when the guys rated 1500 argue with the the guy rated 2300+.

pfren is really rude. littleman syndrome?

agreed. but he's usually correct.

somebody should re-post everything valuable that pfren happens to post minus the weak trolling, that way everyone else can block him.

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Clemenz wrote:
somebody should re-post everything valuable that pfren happens to post minus the weak trolling, that way everyone else can block him.

One could also re-post everything valuable you have posted. All he would need is a blank sheet of paper, and no pencil.

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I vote for IM @Pfren as Chess.com's winner of the Richard Gere look-a-like contest.

More power to him.  Smile

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pfren wrote:
Clemenz wrote:
somebody should re-post everything valuable that pfren happens to post minus the weak trolling, that way everyone else can block him.

One could also re-post everything valuable you have posted. All he would need is a blank sheet of paper, and no pencil.

okay...that's funny.