Crying, and all it's implications...

I dont cry, but I do like long walks on the beach.

That kind of makes me want to cry.

I still pretend it's an allergic reaction to all the dust being stirred up by mass movement of chess pieces. I must admit though, CAUSING crying is significantly more satisfying ... like the OTB dude who was laughing at me when he thought he was safe reducing to K+B+N vs K with a few minutes left on the clock ... heh heh heh ... who's laughing now ... (aside: remaining immature is a good hedge against growing old).

Could you cite your source for this? If you don't, I'll cry!

Or: You're never too old to have a happy childhood (anon)

He was a member of "The World Wide Church of God" for a while. During the last decade or so, it appears he was agnostic. You can easily google this

Ok, thanks. I did and he was in fact of Jewish descent. He was one messed up dude, but one brilliant chess player. Just makes me want to cry!

He was pretty mean-spirited for sure! But yeah, I hear his mom was jewish. I don't know how long he was jewish before he became christian, but I did see a picture of him a while ago, if my memory isn't shot, where he had one of those little round hats on. He was, I'd say, probably late teens early twenties?

There seems to be some confusion here. Fischer was jewish because his mother was jewish. What religion he chose , or church, has no bearing on the fact that Fischer was jewish.  Jews can be atheist, christian etc and still be jewish. The faith/religion most associated with jews is Judaism and a jewish person may or may not observe Judaism. There are also non-jews that follow Judaism.

"Jewish by birth

The underlying logic to Jewish religious identity being determined maternally is that the mother is always known, whereas the father's identity may be in doubt.^[6]

The origin of the halakhic rule that a person's Jewish status is determined in accordance with matrilineal descent is derived from Deuteronomy 7:3-4 and Ezra 10:3 as explicit sources."

(Wikipedia)

As I pointed out some time ago, here:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/fischer-mentally-disturbed-or-just-mean-spirited-jerk?page=7

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He'd be a half-jewish if only his mother was jewish.

I know that jewish people say that if your mother is jewish, so are you, but this is just their view.

For example, in lot of other cultures, the nationality/ethnicity of the child is the same as his father.

And the fairest view would be for a child to choose himself, so I reckon if Bobby didn't consider him to be a jewish person, then perhaps he wasn't

"He'd be a half-jewish if only his mother was jewish."

No such thing as half-Jewish. My Jewish friend laughed at the notion when I brought it up.

I'm not talking about the religion, but about ethnicity.

If one parent is a German and other is Italian, their child is of German and Italian ethnicity, this is plain and simple.

To declare it a German or Italian is a just a matter of convention, nothing more.

So if you can be half Italian, you can be half Jewish as well.

And I did write that I know what Jewish people say, but I will repeat that is their view. For example one might have a Russian father and Jewish mother and the father might claim that the child is Russian. Again, just a matter of opinion and/or convention.

Same goes for all other ethnicities

 Actually, you are wrong here. In Israel the "right of return " is granted to anyone that can prove that even one of their grandparents was jewish. Anyone may deny their race/ nationality but they only look stupid when they do. You can also deny gravity exists but that doesnt make it so......

Italy is made up of 6.2% of Germans - and Germany: 6.1% of Italians. Approximately.

I think you are confusing ethnicities, nationalities and religions.... it is possible for a German to be jewish AND a Christian .....

I don't deny anything, nor do I have any preferences.

I just stated the obvious, I'm glad that you mentioned the gravity, I will make it simple too.

If you mix 2 things, you get a mixture, it has 2 components, and it is created of both parts. One might say that the mixture contains 1st component and he'd be right. Other might say that mixture contains 2nd component and he'd be right too. But the mixture does not become each of its parts.

So Bobby would indeed be half jewish(in a mathematical/biological/ethnic way if you'd like) if he actually has one Jewish parent and another parent of other ethnicity.

I just saw a couple of profiles where some US users say that they are of (Danish, Irish,German origin or Italian/Irish, ...), they did not just say one, because they are of a mixed ancestries. Is it really so hard to use the same logic here?

I don't say that someone shouldn't be proud because he has Jewish ancestry, and good for him if being part Jewish grants that person some privileges in Israel,  but to put this ancestry over other possible ancestries in your bloodline just seems wrong IMO. It is within anyone's right to do so though. peace.

wiki says that there is 528k Italians in Germany which is 0,64%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#Ethnic_groups

Some more Italians could probably be found in
^{"German citizens of immigrant background including people of partial immigrant background 10%"}

I'll certainly bear that in mind - the next time I am looking for Italians.

Hello, good afternoon and welcome to the second leg of the Olympic final of the men's Hide-and-Seek here in the heart of Britain's London. We'll be starting in just a couple of moments from now, and there you can see the two competitors Francisco Huron the Paraguayan, who in this leg is the seeker (we see Francisco Huron darting about, looking behind things) and there's the man he'll be looking for ... (we see Don Roberts practising hiding) our own Don Roberts from Hinckley in Leicestershire who, his trainer tells me, is at the height of his self-secreting form. And now in the first leg, which ended on Wednesday, Don succeeded in finding the Paraguayan in the new world record time of 11 years, 2 months, 26 days, 9 hours, 3 minutes, 27.4 seconds, in a sweetshop in Kilmarnock. And now they're under starter's orders.

The census is scheduled for next year so you might consider volunteering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_in_Germany#Since_1949_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland