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database?...there should be a corresponce catergory as well as online

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Ziryab

So join the CoT group, or create a better one on similar principles.

frankyyy27

id suggest theres a much higher percentage of people not using aids on online chess...i just play the game and im happy with my rating and knowledge..i have no wish or desire to study..

frankyyy27

lol as I said im useless on computers zirab..i dont know how..:(

Ziryab

Of course, the most important point is thy you are asking to further confuse already confusing terminology. Online is correspondence. You want a self-handicapped group for those who do not understand that, or who lack interest in making the effort to find resources that are comparable to Explorer, or that have some other reason for spurning the traditions of correspondence chess. I've already given the reasons that Chess.com should not create a separate rating class for handicapped correspondence. The burden falls on those who want such play to find each other, and that's why the CoT group was created

Ziryab

If you want to play without seeking to get better at it, you really should not ask the site to aid your pursuit of mediocrity.

Ziryab

The link to the CoT group for those interested: http://www.chess.com/groups/view/circle-of-trust-otb

frankyyy27

Im self taught..never read or studied a book but im able to beat mpre than 9 in 10i id hardly call that medioca...id say its a different outlook than urs...i aim to enjoy not waste my time trying to reach the unattainable..;)

frankyyy27

I love slapping the ass of book players...and accept my loses due to my lack pf knowledge...its called enjoyment..

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frankyyy27 wrote:

Im self taught..never read or studied a book but im able to beat mpre than 9 in 10i id hardly call that medioca...id say its a different outlook than urs...i aim to enjoy not waste my time trying to reach the unattainable..;)

Self Taugh means that you study on your own, not that you don´t study.

Ziryab

I'm mostly self-taught. I have hundreds of chess books and some exceptional chess software. I've become a reasonably strong correspondence player, and have a USCF rating over 1900 (maybe--I was the victim of a 503 point upset this weekend, so my rating is going down).

frankyyy27

I lose some games after 2 or 3 mvs...i learn by my my mistakes...maybe if I studied books id reach 2000...then what? Drive myself crazy to get 100 more..when dpes it stop

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frankyyy27 wrote:

I love slapping the ass of book players...and accept my loses due to my lack pf knowledge...its called enjoyment..

Some people enjoy to study and to get better.

There´s no end to the process, it never stops, so if you always have something to learn, you will never stop enjoying the learning process of chess.

frankyyy27

I admit id like a computer or book to refer to once a game is over to cut out silly mistakes in the first few mvs...but to do it during a game just seems wrong...just my opion..please no lectures

Ziryab
frankyyy27 wrote:

I lose some games after 2 or 3 mvs...i learn by my my mistakes...maybe if I studied books id reach 2000...then what? Drive myself crazy to get 100 more..when dpes it stop

It stops when dementia sets in; then you die.

Honestly, when I am no longer learning, I will lose interest. I prefer to learn from the mistakes of others, but I make enough of my own that these too offer opportunities.

frankyyy27

I accept we all like different aspects of chess..but I enjoy the fact I can play an average player and he still has a chance:)..each to his own

Kasparella

I agree with you Franky - I'd rather play without using help, and then analyse when the game is finished. 

Im trying to stop playing online chess and play more live games. I think they are a bit fairer as there is less time to consult explorer, databases, or dare I suggest it... cheat...  

whirlwind2011
frankyyy27 wrote:

I lose some games after 2 or 3 mvs...i learn by my my mistakes...maybe if I studied books id reach 2000...then what? Drive myself crazy to get 100 more..when dpes it stop

Are you afraid of improving? You imply that attaining a rating of 2000 would be a bad thing.

If one avoids reading and studying with books because one might learn something, then one is foolish! That's the point of reading and studying! Indeed, that's the point of Online (Research) Chess: to learn something, and thereby improve.

Ziryab

Another way to think about database use during games that is not in my brief posts here:

Suppose it was against the rules to use a database or book during games. Suppose someone was playing a Sicilian thematic with lots of players, ten games at once, and multiple rounds. That player could go five years or more before he or she could legally look at a book on the Sicilian Defense.

That's not learning; it's stagnation.