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nSlovakia

hmmm? what is true ? This is weird. Why on main page is unlimited and masked page is 100 per week ? what is true ?

Martin_Stahl

I'm pretty sure the upgrade page is in error and the help pages are correct.

I think things are going to change in v3 of the site and why nothing has been done to correct the upgrade page. Though, 100 per week is pretty good and if you really want to analyze that many, it probably would be better to do dedicated local analysis on a computer if that is available to you (much better results).

nSlovakia

100 per week is ok on diamond, but on main page is written 100 per week, too.

Warbringer33

You really don't need the chess.com engine to analyze your games. In fact, you're better off not using it. Use a GUI + commercial or free engine or even easier, just start using ChessTempo's database. Paste your games in there, run an engine on them, and go over the different variations. 

The computer analysis here is as limited and barebones as could be. Plus, the engine is atrocious compared to what it's competing with out there today. I mean, do you really want to analyze your games with the chess.com engine when your opponents are using Stockfish Dev and Komodo 9.2? 

Diakonia

How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?

Warbringer33
Diakonia wrote:

How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?

They're playing mostly blitz and they play a lot. You can play 200 blitz games in a day, easy, if you love the game enough. Analyzing them can be enjoyable for some, too. 

Look at my history - I've played god knows how many standard games in just the past week. 

Once again, none of this matters. Just go to Lichess, import your pgn, and use the local computer analysis based off of Stockfish Dev. It couldn't be easier. 

Allowing us to implement our own engines into Chess.com is one of the things I feel is kind of urgent. I mean, this is the only major chess playing server that doesn't feature that at this point. 

Warbringer33

This is a game I just played on here that I imported just a second ago. You can run the engine on the game yourself and see how it works. Once again, there are more complex engines and interfaces but ...this is much better than what you're using here: 

http://en.lichess.org/KvySN0aP/black#0

chrka

Click the little "Try the new Chess.com" at the bottom of the screen, Warbringer33 (since you're a premium member) and your wish shall be granted 

Pulpofeira

Nice game, but are you using an engine to do your first analysis of the games?

Diakonia
Warbringer33 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:

How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?

They're playing mostly blitz and they play a lot. You can play 200 blitz games in a day, easy, if you love the game enough. Analyzing them can be enjoyable for some, too. 

Look at my history - I've played god knows how many standard games in just the past week. 

Once again, none of this matters. Just go to Lichess, import your pgn, and use the local computer analysis based off of Stockfish Dev. It couldn't be easier. 

Allowing us to implement our own engines into Chess.com is one of the things I feel is kind of urgent. I mean, this is the only major chess playing server that doesn't feature that at this point. 

I get what is he saying, and what you are saying.  Its just that when i "analyze" my games, i take a LOT of time on each game.  That is what i meant by "How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?"

Warbringer33
Diakonia wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:

How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?

They're playing mostly blitz and they play a lot. You can play 200 blitz games in a day, easy, if you love the game enough. Analyzing them can be enjoyable for some, too. 

Look at my history - I've played god knows how many standard games in just the past week. 

Once again, none of this matters. Just go to Lichess, import your pgn, and use the local computer analysis based off of Stockfish Dev. It couldn't be easier. 

Allowing us to implement our own engines into Chess.com is one of the things I feel is kind of urgent. I mean, this is the only major chess playing server that doesn't feature that at this point. 

I get what is he saying, and what you are saying.  Its just that when i "analyze" my games, i take a LOT of time on each game.  That is what i meant by "How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?"

No, I understand what you're saying, too. I'm just starting to annotate my own games, myself and yeah - they don't break their games down like that. Most guys run through Stockfish a few times and check a couple variations before the next blitz game. It depends on how seriously they take it, you know? 

I put far, far more work and analysis into my 45/45 games than my 30/0 and 3/2 games, of course. 

Warbringer33
chrka wrote:

Click the little "Try the new Chess.com" at the bottom of the screen, Warbringer33 (since you're a premium member) and your wish shall be granted 

 

That is indeed a vast improvement over what the "old" chess.com has been for ages. Vast. 

I like the direction V3 live chess seems to be going in. It was definitely time to modernize a bit. Still - I'd like to use my OWN engine to analyze the games within Chess.com itself. With all of the other servers, there's a setting for which engine I want to load. Can you in fact do that here and I'm just not seeing it in the V3 panels? 

incantevoleutopia

I tried the free trial stuff when giving your card info was not required. Or did I only dream this thing?

Diakonia
Warbringer33 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
Diakonia wrote:

How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?

They're playing mostly blitz and they play a lot. You can play 200 blitz games in a day, easy, if you love the game enough. Analyzing them can be enjoyable for some, too. 

Look at my history - I've played god knows how many standard games in just the past week. 

Once again, none of this matters. Just go to Lichess, import your pgn, and use the local computer analysis based off of Stockfish Dev. It couldn't be easier. 

Allowing us to implement our own engines into Chess.com is one of the things I feel is kind of urgent. I mean, this is the only major chess playing server that doesn't feature that at this point. 

I get what is he saying, and what you are saying.  Its just that when i "analyze" my games, i take a LOT of time on each game.  That is what i meant by "How do you possibly analyze 100 games a week?"

No, I understand what you're saying, too. I'm just starting to annotate my own games, myself and yeah - they don't break their games down like that. Most guys run through Stockfish a few times and check a couple variations before the next blitz game. It depends on how seriously they take it, you know? 

I put far, far more work and analysis into my 45/45 games than my 30/0 and 3/2 games, of course. 

I dont analyze my short games here, so ill take your word for it :-)

Unless its a long time control tournament game, i dont analyze it.  

Warbringer33

Relating to V3 again: Last time I tried it, it was complete garbage. Now I just switched over to it for good. As said before, I like the direction things are headed. Very, very modern and at the same time super browser light. Good stuff. Now the $14/mo. or $99/yr. seems worth it. The live chess is so, so much better. I'm thrilled that they finally added time stamping. 

nSlovakia

ok, lichess is better for fair to player. Lie with unlimited and none correction. oh my god. this world is on lie, lie, lie ...

Warbringer33
nSlovakia wrote:

ok, lichess is better for fair to player. Lie with unlimited and none correction. oh my god. this world is on lie, lie, lie ...

 

Again, there's really only two places you're going to play online where there is legitimately something actively done about cheating: PlayChess and FIDE Online Arena. I would imagine that the USCF online blitz and quick games here on Chess.com are pretty kosher, too. That said, there is nowhere near the amount of cheating going on that some of you think there is. I actually met a guy in game yesterday on PlayChess who went NUTS and accused me of being a cheater because I took 20 seconds on move three. That's it - that was the only evidence. The guy's name was "HumansOnly"...so, you can see where he's coming from. Paranoid delusion.

nSlovakia
Warbringer33 wrote:
nSlovakia wrote:

ok, lichess is better for fair to player. Lie with unlimited and none correction. oh my god. this world is on lie, lie, lie ...

 

Again, there's really only two places you're going to play online where there is legitimately something actively done about cheating: PlayChess and FIDE Online Arena. I would imagine that the USCF online blitz and quick games here on Chess.com are pretty kosher, too. That said, there is nowhere near the amount of cheating going on that some of you think there is. I actually met a guy in game yesterday on PlayChess who went NUTS and accused me of being a cheater because I took 20 seconds on move three. That's it - that was the only evidence. The guy's name was "HumansOnly"...so, you can see where he's coming from. Paranoid delusion.

but, you have for system, avg blunders, avg mistake ... (avg quality game, imprint style) and if you play excelent on your previous game or on your rating them alarm to anti-cheating. this is only on this page how much completed anti-cheating system ... 

Warbringer33
nSlovakia wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
nSlovakia wrote:

ok, lichess is better for fair to player. Lie with unlimited and none correction. oh my god. this world is on lie, lie, lie ...

 

Again, there's really only two places you're going to play online where there is legitimately something actively done about cheating: PlayChess and FIDE Online Arena. I would imagine that the USCF online blitz and quick games here on Chess.com are pretty kosher, too. That said, there is nowhere near the amount of cheating going on that some of you think there is. I actually met a guy in game yesterday on PlayChess who went NUTS and accused me of being a cheater because I took 20 seconds on move three. That's it - that was the only evidence. The guy's name was "HumansOnly"...so, you can see where he's coming from. Paranoid delusion.

but, you have for system, avg blunders, avg mistake ... (avg quality game, imprint style) and if you play excelent on your previous game or on your rating them alarm to anti-cheating. this is only on this page how much completed anti-cheating system ... 

 

I understand. Lichess is really cool. Again, I'm a donor over there. That said, you're definitely not getting the same experience on Lichess as you are on the 50 Euro a year PlayChess. You get what you pay for. Lichess is free, and that's great, but it has it's limitations as a result.

Same thing with FIDE Online Arena. Those accounts are tied to our social security numbers and they have a lot of hardware running over those games. If I or someone else cheats, we're permanently out of FIDE.

MSC157
Pulpofeira wrote:

Nice game, but are you using an engine to do your first analysis of the games?

To be honest, yes for online games. No for OTB. :)