Difference between puzzle rating and live chess

I'm still hanging queens in rapid so you're fine 😂😅

Thank-you. I probably should be playing more rapid games.

My rapid is 2000 and my puzzle is 2600

Well i have 800 rapid, 2200 puzzles. Haven't played rapid in a while thought and the 1400 bots have been pretty easy

My puzzle rating is 1502 but my blitz rapid rating is 486 and my blitz is 502 (Coincidence)

My bot highest ⭐⭐⭐ Complete bot is 1400

my puzzle rating is over double that of my blitz rating, idk why. 

Its not because i you long time on each puzzle, i just keep loosing in blitz even though i win over my friends who have 200-300 more blitz rating than me.

Blitz 1000

puzzle 2100

That’s remarkable. 2200 puzzles rating is respectable. How are you only 800 at rapid?

vai brasilllll

Classic 670 puzzle 1500

Eerily we are in the same boat. Do you find you puzzles training translating into your live games?

Same here, I just reached 2100 in puzzle rating (1100 Blitz, 1200 rapid, almost 1500 daily)... I mostly play daily these days . The point is, with puzzle what you have to do is spot how you will gain (let say a fork) and then make it works. In real game, you spot the gain, go for it... And there is a defense you did not see. 

The one who is better in chess usually performs better in puzzles, but there could be people who have a high puzzle rating but not a good chess rating, they are good at puzzles because they spent an enormous amount of time to it, in a real game you don't have that much time to find tactics in every single move, so you should have a practical approach to solving puzzles. In my videos I'm trying to provide such an approach, here is an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S7CtsE-ofg 

It is not perfectly solved series but it shows how quickly you can spot the weaknesses to solve puzzles, which is important in real games.

@goldenbeer

Not exactly...here just an example of a 1900+ puzzle

https://www.chess.com/puzzles/problem/1488560

I solved this one in 23 seconds (target 41s).

In a couple of seconds I know knight goes to e2 and rook gives checkmate in h8... I also know I will probably sac one rook. 

But I did not see immediatly that the bishop could go to h7 (which is not a problem here... but what if it has been protected?).  

I did not need to worry about that. I knew it works... since it is a puzzle. But I am sure I would have missed that tactic in a real game (at least in a blitz game).

@Mathieu9229,

If you often can solve puzzles of range 2000 quickly, then most likely your blitz should be way higher than 1100, the reason that it is 1100, is that you simply stopped playing blitz. Play games, don't be afraid of losing some, you will quickly get better. I believe 500 difference between puzzle and blitz might be natural but more than that, either one spends too much time for puzzles or does have a very little general knowledge of chess (opening, strategy, endgame), specially in your range, you don't even need to know any proper opening to get to 1500 blitz (I didn't know when I was 1500-1600, I was playing my own openings, trash).

BTW, this is my today puzzles, 5-6 puzzles in 9 minutes with post engine analysis for some of them, usually it takes more time though. But today's puzzles were easy (puzzles of range 2500-3000).

hmm well my puzzles go from ~2600 to near 2900 right now so-

I do see your point which is why I am trying to be more practical by speeding things up. It’s not game environment nor practical when you spend 10 minutes on a puzzle therefore the last few days I’ve been trying to hit the target time to exercise my pattern recognition and instincts  to replicate a real game.

Ive let my puzzle rating take a 200 hit but at least I gain long term benefits by getting more practice and the points will come back as I come back stronger.

So now I don’t even care or get angry for losing huge points. 

Thank-you for chiming in; I appreciate it.

Basically if I am not able to solve the puzzle within the target time, I’ll literally sit on my hands and visualize the variations and captures.

The odd ones that still get me is when I am not sure what the puzzle theme is asking for? 

As for my speed chess rating, I am not concerned. I did take a summer break from speed chess to work on tactics and the odd rapid game then and there. I had to strip my poor speed chess habits. Which is why I have a high disparity between my puzzles rating and speed chess.

Thanks for the OTB tip, I’ve been working on my board vision and taking my time but the way things are in Canada; there won’t be any OTB this year and never mind next year.

Therefore I’ll continue to take my time with working on tactics first, doing game analysis and play the odd rapid or speed chess games.

I think taking my time is very important because burn out or mental fatigue is a real thing in chess. I don’t think grinding out 10 minute rapid games is worth it just to get that higher ELO # beside your name quicker. I’ve got just barely over 200 rapid games and a handful of my friends have close to or over 2000 rapid games played which is insane albeit for a 1700 rating.

This is a weird one, my rapid rating and puzzle rating have a difference of 900.
It probably might be because I need to play more rapid to update my actual rating.