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 Can someone tell my why anyone disconnects  other than as a means of cheating.   Each time I play and my opponent disconnects, I ask why he/she has done so.   I have never received an explanation.

I realise this issue has been 'done to death''.   However, I have yet to see a satisfactory explanation that does not include some form of cheating.   Can anyone offer an acceptable reason other than cheating.   It can't be to save time as one's time continues anyway

Related to this is what happens when disconnection occurs as a form of breakdown.   When this happens, I have found that the passage of a player's time bears no relation to whose turn it is.

Please do not respond to this to complain about the issue being raised again UNLESS that is you can tell me why anyone disconnects for a reason other than cheating.

scorpito



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 Obvious isn't it.  Simply because the player can refer to whatever help is available on line or in the relevant literature - or even to anyone who might be following the game with the opponent.

scorpito

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I live in a resort area in Central Oregon, home to (whatever the reason, often times when playing interactive games online, my being connected causes others to be disconnected and on some apps, like ANY POKER APP, it slows the game waaay down...I've virtually quit playing poker becausd of it...any Verizon reps reading-- PLEASE fix it). I agree with the other commenter before me, they mighg not be cheating (in fact, when on a multi-player online game, YOU might be the reason THEY get disconnected-- as is the case with me and poker apps...fortunately, i just moved closer to Bend, OR, and with only 2 people playing (on this chess app, the stronger the connection to the server is...I base this [number of people being relevant] theory, on the fact that when playing at a 9 seater poker table, its almost always slower than when at a 5 seater...i say "almost always" because other people at a table who live in low data/internet coverage areas, ive noticed, can affect the game too (if a new player comes to the table, sometimes it slows down AFTER ive already been there, and then speeds up when they leave)...there's low coverage areas all over the world but Central Oregon is the worst! THAT EFFECTS CHESS.COM and anh other multiplayer or interactive game or app...I never had a problem with gaes slowing down BEFORE so many people started using androids/smartphones and tablets...the PC days werd lightning fast for interactive online games...but now things are different. NEW TECHNOLOGY = PROFIT =INADEQUATE TESTING BEFORE BEING RELEASED...look at how many issues there are with the Sams**g Gala*y S6 Edge...ever wonder why sooo many updates need to be installed. so often? (that's part of it...therd is a thin line between what comprises fixing bugs, and "improvements" to your phone, IMHO-- with evidence to bsck that opinion up as partly fact...I dont care to cite references, bug I could) BY THE WAY, when someone starts disconnecting HERE, I can usually fix it by moving to certain spots in my house, and since I moved about 5 days ago, it happens less frequently... but when the problem persists-- I explain that it may be my net, and offer a draw, or if losing I'll resign. I like a fair game. Im probably the best person who can answer that question due to how much evidencd Ive collected through experiencs and research. please excuse caps in inappropriatde places (for those who ard nit-picky)...im disabled with at least one verified brain trauma disorder, and i just used half my enefgy for the day typing this one key at a time. on the bright side, im autistic with severe OCD...so before my disabilities, my brain could process mass amounts of data simultaneously like a super human computer....after my brain trauma, im only capable of being an "average savant" lol...seriously though i get mentally exhausted easily and it can often affecf my thinking ability and focus capacity (to focus) ...enough "typing". hope that helps ya

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...home to the worst area/data coverage in the world-- I started to say...

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i have a S Galaxy S4 and a Galaxy S 10.5 inch tab with mobile Wifi jet pack by the way. (better tech can help, my tab is faster online, but the main thing is coverage area) :/ hope they (Verizon, AT&F ect...) fix it soon.

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AT&T* sorry 4 thd type-os

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My thanks to euzipz for the feedback though it does not appear to cover the case in point.   That is the case of the player who purposely disconnects for some less than legitimate reason.   

Actually, could the owners of the website inform us as to what reasons they think players need to disconnect.

Personally, I'd prefer the option to be removed from the site.   Failing this, I'd hope that players who use the option would tell us why they use the option.

scorpito

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scorpito wrote:

Actually, could the owners of the website inform us as to what reasons they think players need to disconnect.

Personally, I'd prefer the option to be removed from the site.   Failing this, I'd hope that players who use the option would tell us why they use the option.

scorpito

Why in the world would the site's owner be responsible to explain irrational behavior?

And, disconnection is not an 'option' that is under the control of the site. 

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I fail to see why someone needs to disconnect in order to cheat, as that is exactly what you imply. Please explain.

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VyboR wrote:

I fail to see why someone needs to disconnect in order to cheat, as that is exactly what you imply. Please explain.

If someone purposely disconnects to rest or take a break that's cheating imo.

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guydeguy wrote:
VyboR wrote:

I fail to see why someone needs to disconnect in order to cheat, as that is exactly what you imply. Please explain.

If someone purposely disconnects to rest or take a break that's cheating imo.

It's their time to do with as they see fit. 

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guydeguy написал:
VyboR wrote:

I fail to see why someone needs to disconnect in order to cheat, as that is exactly what you imply. Please explain.

If someone purposely disconnects to rest or take a break that's cheating imo.

What advantage is gained by disconnecting? Your time still runs.

Most people who disconnect when they're losing are just sore losers. If someone disconnects and reconnects during the game most likely they have a poor connection.

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I think possibly quite a substantial number of disconnections occur because the player is actually at work and someone else, their boss for example, comes by their desk and looks at what they're doing.

 

But, as others have pointed out, a disconnection is often unintentional and caused by technical issues. And, as also noted by many, the player who disconnects gains no advantage from doing so anyway, so cheating is not an issue here.

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guydeguy wrote:
VyboR wrote:

I fail to see why someone needs to disconnect in order to cheat, as that is exactly what you imply. Please explain.

If someone purposely disconnects to rest or take a break that's cheating imo.

When you cheat you do that to gain something and you gain absolutely nothing by disconnecting.

Whether someone disconnects for 5 minutes and makes immediately a move or takes 5 minutes for one move without disconnecting has absolutely 0 difference for the game. The position would be exactly the same, and so would be the timers of both players.

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If nothing else it's distracting. It could be caused by technical difficulties, but in my experience they usually begin disconnecting when their position starts to deteriorate or they lose material.

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The suggestion that the disconnection is caused by a technical fault may have some credibility as each time it happens I ask my opponent why he has done so.   As I have never received a reply to this question perhaps this is  the reason.   However, the fact that the disconnection sometimes lasts no more than seconds and is then NOT followed by an explanation tends to  indicate some form of skulduggery.   But the clincher in terms of possible cheating is that I have never read of any member openly explaining the motivation behind disconnection.

 

scorpito 16/9/15

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If it appears that the opponent disconnected briefly, it may be that there was actually no disconnection, merely lost data packets somewhere on the route, or unusual delay in their transmission, which led the server to conclude erroneously that the client machine was no longer responding. In this case the opponent might not even have been aware of any problem with the connection, and your question about why they disconnected would make no sense.

 

Personally I don't usually respond if my opponent says anything during a live chess game. It's too distracting. Often I don't even notice that something has been said until the game is over anyway. With some players there will be language problems too which prevent, or discourage, such communication.

 

Your final point, that no-one can come up with a really convincing reason why disconnecting during a game is any help in winning the game, does indeed seem to put the question to rest.

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Other thing is that there is unfair and unsportsmanlike play - for example in my current game against an australian opponent named "Benjilol" - (even a premium member!) opponent refuses a draw although I keep checking him for about 15-20 moves.

That is really dumm and unsportsmanlike Yell !