do Americans really see Bobby as one of the greatest players

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chessmaster54458

of all time....i mean he was good, but defintelly is not a top 10 player of all time..he was good for his time

chessmaster54458

i just dont get it

chessmaster54458

i just dont get it

MuhammadAreez10

R. J. B. Fischer was the greatest chess player of all time.

Blackfoxx
chessmicky wrote:

Because you don't know much about chess. Ask Anand, ask Kasparov, both of them will tell you that he was their greatest inspiration and role model

Hahaha touché! Laughing

Darth_Algar
chessmaster54458 wrote:

of all time....i mean he was good, but defintelly is not a top 10 player of all time..he was good for his time

Lulz. Meanwhile OP seems about ready to declare Caruana the greatest player ever based on his streak in St. Louis.

PossibleOatmeal
chessmaster54458 wrote:

of all time....i mean he was good, but defintelly is not a top 10 player of all time..he was good for his time

Yes, and so does the rest of the world.  The ones that know anything at all about chess, anyway.

DiogenesDue

It took you three tries to get a single reply to a Bobby Fischer troll thread, probably the easiest trolling subject on the forum.  Give up, son.  Trolling is not for you. 

Dodger111

He was OK for his time but with modern theory a 1500 player today could probably beat him easy. Chess players today are so much smarter.

(Short pause allowed for laughter to subside)  

crisy

'...a 1500 player could probably beat him easy.' As George Orwell said, there are lots of ways of expressing incredulity in English, but '...and then you wake up' is the right one here. 

crisy

I prefer it to the subsiding laughter, though it's a near-run thing.

LearnHard

Bobby Fisher wasn't just the current champion, he dominated all his contemporaries in his prime. (Much like Carlsen today.) This is a reason people from all over the world see him as great.

For Americans, particularly not only was he an American, it was during the cold war. Chess of course being a sport that the Soviets had previously (and subsequently) dominated.

He also retired in his prime, so players that followed were always in his shadow since they didn't have the opportunity to beat him. Paul Morphy has a similar claim to fame but in an era before there was a world chess champion.

See xkcd for a graphical representation:


Pulpofeira

What? Larry Bird above Magic Johnson? You must be kidding!

LearnHard

@Pulpofeira: Basketball comparisons are by Player Efficiency Ratings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_efficiency_rating

Pulpofeira

Ok, but basketball is a team game. My goodness, Shaq o'Neal as 3rd of all time...

mynameisgeorge
Dodger111 wrote:

He was OK for his time but with modern theory a 1500 player today could probably beat him easy. Chess players today are so much smarter.

(Short pause allowed for laughter to subside)  

Lol "OK for his time". For his time, he was better than Magnus Carlsen, if I can make such an analogy. His 5-0 streaks against players from Larsen to Taimanov and all others surrounding 1972 is unparalled. Not by Karpov in 1994 or even Caruana in 2014!

Pulpofeira

I'd say Dodger was being sarcastic.

aglitatta

    Booby Fisher was more than a good  chess player. he did much more than win a world championship. He raised the standard for all subsequent masters in playing conditions,prize money, and respect. Its a shame that he lost his mind the last 12 yrs or so of his life. This sometinmes happens to geniuses in any endeavor.   Thanks Aglitatta.

kleelof
aglitatta wrote:

    Booby Fisher 

I think you are on another sport now.Laughing

camberfoil

Booby Fischer hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha