Do chess players rich and happy?

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MrDamonSmith

...& then it's connection with chess!

shadowsaybye

MrDamonSmith wrote:

...& then it's connection with chess!

Cuz chess is game for smart, isnt it?

ProfessorProfesesen
dadam wrote:
batgirl hat geschrieben:
dadam wrote:
trysts hat geschrieben:

It's not smart to think being rich will make you happy

Better rich and unhappy than poor and unhappy.

Why?

Without money you are unhappy + (!) problems because you can' t pay your bills.

Doubleattack, fork, Na8 --> ulcus

agreed, if you are rich you can pay someone to listen to your ranting and raving...you can have support of millions on tv...if you are poor or homeless...then well...

dadam

If you are unhappy and rich you maybe get lucky in future.

If you are unhappy and poor you maybe get lucky and poor in future.

learningthemoves

Personal finance is a learned skill just like chess. I think we could all agree that you could be one of the smartest people around, but until you take the time to learn how the pieces move and study the game, it's not just going to happen for you automatically.

ProfessorProfesesen
learningthemoves wrote:

Personal finance is a learned skill just like chess. I think we could all agree that you could be one of the smartest people around, but until you take the time to learn how the pieces move and study the game, it's not just going to happen for you automatically.

not if you inherit...

dadam

Never talk with a vegetarian before he has inherited a sausage factory.

MSteen

Many studies have shown that happiness is often correlated with the ability to be "in the now"--that is to live totally in the present moment without the mind wandering to past mistakes or future worries. Such a state has been called "flow." It's experienced by great athletes, by surgeons during a delicate operation, by musicians performing at a virtuoso level (and below), and of course by chess players.

If you have enough money to be free from want, with a little left over, then to a large extent your happiness is up to you. Your external circumstances have little to do with it. By this standard, Henry David Thoreau was extremely happy during his two years on Walden Pond--living in a cabin he build himself for $27.00 in materials.

trysts

I wonder how "happiness" is defined for the "many studies"?

dashkee94

trysts

By doing chess players, of course.

PLAVIN81

Do not take any wooden nickolsEmbarassed

trysts
dashkee94 wrote:

trysts

By doing chess players, of course.

I don't understand, dashkee94?

rednblack

@trysts, measuring happiness is inherently subjective, but my understanding is that most of the studies relate happiness to some sort of life fulfillment, as opposed to contentment.  

chessjelly

Happiness is, a cigar called Hamlet.

trysts
rednblack wrote:

@trysts, measuring happiness is inherently subjective, but my understanding is that most of the studies relate happiness to some sort of life fulfillment, as opposed to contentment.  

Yes, I agree. I've thought of it like an assessment that you personally make upon your life. I'm poor, but it is not what I look at when I assess whether or not I have achieved happiness in my life.

batgirl

HERE is a study done a long while back on "happiness,"  comparing (what the researchers considered measures of) happiness between lottery winners, non-winners and parapalegics.  In short, winners had initial high spikes in the "happiness" level, while parapalegics have comparable low spikes, but after a short time there is a leveling out in which the happiness level of both extreme groups in somewhat equal. 

Lack of money can be stressful, but so can having a lot of money.  Stress in itself dosn't negate happiness, but rather offers challenges.  How one responds to those challenges may determine happiness.  Also, being poor doesn't necessarily equate to what someone mentioned as the inability to pay bills.  Many people with high income can't pay their bills and many people below the poverty line can and do pay their bills. That often has as much with money-management abitlity and personal choices as about levels of wealth.

People who look towards money to solve their issues are generally disappointed.  Riches in no way equate to happiness just as lack of riches in no way equate to unhappiness.  To be poor and unhappy is not any sadder than to be rich and unhappy.  If one is so dissatisfied which his/her life as to be termed an unhappy person, I can't see that being rich is any improvement in that person's situation except in some fantasies of those not equally endowed...  the Richard Cory Syndome. 

learningthemoves
ProfessorProfesesen wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:

Personal finance is a learned skill just like chess. I think we could all agree that you could be one of the smartest people around, but until you take the time to learn how the pieces move and study the game, it's not just going to happen for you automatically.

not if you inherit...

Yes, especially if you inherit.

You must learn the skill of personal finance or employ the services of someone skilled in that area to manage your inherited funds or things can go wrong very quickly.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324662404578334663271139552

xxdsz

I think we should ask Justin Bieber about this 

Derekjj

Chess players are bums. Don't spend all your time on chess, go out and get real education, and a job.

Ubik42
batgirl wrote:

HERE is a study done a long while back on "happiness,"  comparing (what the researchers considered measures of) happiness between lottery winners, non-winners and parapalegics.  In short, winners had initial high spikes in the "happiness" level, while parapalegics have comparable low spikes, but after a short time there is a leveling out in which the happiness level of both extreme groups in somewhat equal. 

Lack of money can be stressful, but so can having a lot of money.  Stress in itself dosn't negate happiness, but rather offers challenges.  How one responds to those challenges may determine happiness.  Also, being poor doesn't necessarily equate to what someone mentioned as the inability to pay bills.  Many people with high income can't pay their bills and many people below the poverty line can and do pay their bills. That often has as much with money-management abitlity and personal choices as about levels of wealth.

People who look towards money to solve their issues are generally disappointed.  Riches in no way equate to happiness just as lack of riches in no way equate to unhappiness.  To be poor and unhappy is not any sadder than to be rich and unhappy.  If one is so dissatisfied which his/her life as to be termed an unhappy person, I can't see that being rich is any improvement in that person's situation except in some fantasies of those not equally endowed...  the Richard Cory Syndome. 

Good stuff, I have read that before. It seems happiness is more genetic. People seem to have their own levels of happiness that they flow towards, regardless of the ups and downs of life, which are just temporary blips.  Some people are usually happy, some aren't.