do fast movers in chess memorize the chess moves?

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rocky0chess

hi friends !

1) many times it is observed, chess moves are same and repeated.

2) are these moves memorized by players ?

3) is memorizing and fast moves inter-related ?

 

what is your opinion ?  please reply.

tnx Smile

RomyGer

1) yes, especially in the openings of course,

2) yes, most players often play the same openings, 

3) yes, in short games one has less time to memorize moves, so it is an advantage when your brain works fast...

But what is the point ? There has been written a lot about how the memory works, in short and in long, normal games. 

Or are you interested in why players choose for short games, e.g. they have a lot of experience and hopeful a good memory ! 

I myself play chess for over 65 years and now like to play 2/1 and 5/2 games here on chess.com , often the same openings in my advantage. Also endgames are often "the same", thanks to experience and memory.

rocky0chess

hi!

thanks RomyGer for your valuable opinion.

1) it has been observed , generally games between GRANDMASTERS tends to draw.

may be they are in a profession of chess.

may be they play and think chess most of their times, and so they are very familiar how to postion their moves. so with the tactics.

 

2) As an average player, the player can repeat same opening moves, but middle games become tougher, with time running out.

it is here the experience comes in play.

3) but wht is a standard time given to play in international chess games?

 

thanks once again . Smile

waffllemaster

I recently realized something about premoving after the opening.  When it's very very fast (and the players are good and not moving randomly) they're actually aware of all the 2 move threats in the position.  i.e. if their opponent got 2 moves in a row, they know all the different two move combinations that involve a tactic.  So there's a lot of pattern recognition going on.  When this is more or less automatic and instant, any time spent is thinking about the overall strategic plan (or calculating deeper into the tactics).

Better players than that may even see all (or many) of the 3, 4, 5, etc move tactics.  I don't know, I'm certainly not at that level.  And in this case it's not giving the opponent __# of moves in a row anymore, it's kind of like calculation except instant.  Maybe you can find a lot of that in titled player blitz chess.  Not seeing a tactic instantly, that's not so hard, but if they see all the tactics (of a certain depth) nearly instantly that would be really impressive to me.

If this sounds odd, I'd say think of 4+4.  You don't have to calculate, you just know it's 8.  Then if asked 4x4 you don't do 4+4+4+4 you just know it's 16.  After years of chess, strong players can see a tactic all at once.

Now that I'm thinking of this, maybe that's how players like GargleBlaster have a higher than you'd expect speed rating (when compared to their national or FIDE rating).  The types of tactical sequences they see instantly may confuse a standard-thinking opponent who has to take time to calculate.  (GB has emphasized not recapturing / sacrificing moves which would interrupt regular pattern recognition).