ok, put the paper bag back on your head and back to sleep.
Do players outside the United States think Bobby Fischer wasn't actually that good?
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Nov 25, 2016
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#263
No idea what that means... but I would like to sleep heh.
It's strange that you have difficultly living with the fact that people are speculating and I always found it werid why you needed to judge me, or thinking you know anything instead of living with the fact that you don't 
Nov 25, 2016
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#265
0110001101101000 wrote:
Supdok wrote:
it's strange that people have difficulty living with the fact that fischer chose only to play boris in 1992 after the 72 match. always found it weird why people needed to judge him or think they know why instead of just living with the fact and appreciating the good games he played.
Considering the circumstances it would be bizarre if no one were to speculate. It's not judging to speculate.
We're supposed to judge. Nothing wrong with that.
Better use good judgement though.
It's a "objective" question with only "subjective" answers.
Let it go.
Nov 26, 2016
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#268
0110001101101000 wrote:
I only see speculation though... but I didn't read all 16 pages.
Yes, read when I said about Karpov using a hypnotist.
Nov 26, 2016
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#269
Karpov is a hypnotist, he used another one in the audience. that's fact, not speculation.
Nov 26, 2016
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#270
" Karpov's team included a Dr. Zukhar (a well known hypnotist)" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1978
Supdok wrote:
Karpov is a hypnotist, he used another one in the audience. that's fact, not speculation.
Phew! For a second or two I thought you wrote "Karpark".
mcris escribió:
" Karpov's team included a Dr. Zukhar (a well known hypnotist)" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1978
That inspired one interesting moment in the movie "Le diagonale du fou", when the challenger, a dissident, missed a simple mate in 7 because the hypnotist!
Nov 26, 2016
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#273
To the OP: Fischer, like other greats, has already secured his place in history. His legacy cannot be nullified by one person's opinion, be it 'some guy from Lithuania' or Nakamura or whoever.
You have to understand that 99% of chessplayers (myself included) couldn't grasp what Fischer was capable of unless it is explained to them move by move. Thus most people's opinion of Fischer isn't based on actual facts, statistics or by analizing his games. Rather, it's based on regurgitated stuff they picked up from other sources (not always reliable and objective), and on personal bias that often has little to do with chess. Think of it as a couple of 9th graders arguing whether Einstein was smarter than Hawking.
To answer yous question, I doubt there are such clear distinction based on geography. It could be that slightly more people in US vote for Fischer, and slightly more people in former USSR countries are rooting for Kasparov, but I think there are plenty of fans and detractors everywhere. Even during the cold war there were quite a few behind the iron curtain who secretly admired Fischer.
And don't forget Fischer provoked quite a bit of revulsion in US after his 9/11 comments. Even though these were the ramblings of a mentally ill man and former cold war hero, some people still can't get past that even to this day.
Capablanca gentleman...
Nov 26, 2016
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#275
Pulpofeira wrote:
mcris escribió:
" Karpov's team included a Dr. Zukhar (a well known hypnotist)" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1978
That inspired one interesting moment in the movie "Le diagonale du fou", when the challenger, a dissident, missed a simple mate in 7 because the hypnotist!
That is my all-time favorite chess movie. In English, it's known as Dangerous Moves.
Supdok wrote:
always found it weird why people needed to judge him or think they know why instead of just living with the fact and appreciating the good games he played.
Wasted potential is always frustrating.
alinfe wrote:
Think of it as a couple of 9th graders arguing whether Einstein was smarter than Hawking.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Nov 27, 2016
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#278
he fulfilled his chess potential, so it must be frustrating thinking he didn't.
Supdok wrote:
he fulfilled his chess potential, so it must be frustrating thinking he didn't.
It must be frustrating for you to not be able to outwit random internet posters.
And no, he didn't.
I only see speculation though... but I didn't read all 16 pages.