Do you think analog clocks should be banned !?

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Ziryab
Philidor_Legacy wrote:

I have two old analog clocks but can't really use them anymore because of the new tournament time limits incorporating bonus seconds for each move. How do I set an analog for  40/110, SD/30, d10 time limit (to be used in the upcoming George Washington Open)? Fortunately I also have a digital clock that can be programmed for such complex time controls and so I use it exclusively.

 

My analog clock gathers dust on a bookcase in my office. I bought a DGT a few years ago and use it now.

KholmovDM

Analog clocks should not be banned. Can't tell if this is a troll thread or not. My $0.02.

TRextastic

Banned from what? Existing? I love analog clocks. That click is something special. But I do think their use in any official capacity should be done by now. They're not as precise, reliable, or legible.

bbeltkyle89
TRextastic wrote:

Banned from what? Existing? I love analog clocks. That click is something special. But I do think their use in any official capacity should be done by now. They're not as precise, reliable, or legible.

I always thought it would be cool if there were a digital "analog" clock. Like it had the look and feel of an analog, but instead of a traditional clock face with gear mechanism, it was a digital display of an analog clock face. And then if you wanted to you could change it from displaying the analog face to a digital numbers....if that makes sense...

I just thought that would be cool...id buy one....

pineyman

I like analog clocks along with wood sets and boards. It's an age thing!... I also prefer tournament chess players who resemble gentlemen rather than someone who just completed yard work.. Admittedly, I can remember when playing a tough position a hundred wind up clocks in a room sounds like thunder....Analog wood wind up clocks last forever while cheaply made digital clocks are both more profitable and less durable... I wonder if delay isn't simply to increase profits of chess suppliers. 

Graf_Nachthafen
pineyman hat geschrieben:

I wonder if delay isn't simply to increase profits of chess suppliers. 

I would not be surprised to learn that most of the delays came into being when suppliers asked tournament directors to implement them in return for a discount or even completely free electronic clocks and boards.

 

Leaving aside the practice of adjourning games which just isn't feasable anymore in the age of engine analysis, there certainly was nothing wrong with the time controls of matches like Fischer vs. Spassy or Kasparov vs. Karpov.

 

In fact, all the changes to match format and classic time controls that have been tried and discarded or retained since then do not seem to have impacted the games popularity in any meaningful way, contrary to the promises organizers and FIDE made.

TC2304

A lot of chess clubs in England don't have digital clocks so still use analog clocks. Digital clocks can be a costly purchase for some clubs and often not worth it for casual players who have played for 40+ years. Of course, I think digital clocks are better, but banning analog clocks would cause problems for some chess clubs.

soupram
TC2304 wrote:

A lot of chess clubs in England don't have digital clocks so still use analog clocks. Digital clocks can be a costly purchase for some clubs and often not worth it for casual players who have played for 40+ years. Of course, I think digital clocks are better, but banning analog clocks would cause problems for some chess clubs.

I also go to a club with a similar issue, and while analogue clocks have their downsides, it would cross the line if you began to ban them

budaplayer

Absolutely not

Yargo

If I arrive at your tournament with only an analog clock, and my opponent has no clock , will you refund my entry fee or provide a digital?

Yargo

BTW ; delay, increment , etc , are there to eliminate judgment on "insufficient losing chances" draws

no arguments (reasonable ones anyway)

TC2304
Yargo wrote:

BTW ; delay, increment , etc , are there to eliminate judgment on "insufficient losing chances" draws

no arguments (reasonable ones anyway)

I think they are also used to improve quality of endgame play, but that's more for spectators of top level chess.

CookedQueen
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
And how exactly do we achieve more problems with digital clocks?

I  wasn't talking about digital clocks in general, but asking this you didn't understand my words.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

Analogue will be gradually phased out. The digital increment time controls are much more in the spirit of chess IMO

GnrfFrtzl

CookedQueen wrote:

GnrfFrtzl wrote:
And how exactly do we achieve more problems with digital clocks?

I  wasn't talking about digital clocks in general, but asking this you didn't understand my words.

I completely understood every word you wrote, they were just vague and completely irrelevant.

pineyman

  Perhaps one percent of chess games are played in tournaments. For these games delay is never used and exact precision of the timing is not critical. At the local senior center often no two games are using the same time controls. Advantage analog. Often the same clock is used for 3 or 4 different time controls in an afternoon. Advantage analog. I've been using my analog clock for 60 years and I am on my third digital clock in 10 years. Advantage analog. And yes I know people who have recently purchased new analog clocks which cost more than most digital clocks. Most also have a digital clock. It's about convenience. Advantage analog.

CookedQueen
GnrfFrtzl wrote:

I completely understood every word you wrote, they were just vague and completely irrelevant.

OMG, Whats your problem? If you don't get the message then stop bothering people. Not my part if your talk can't exceed a specific level.

CookedQueen
CrystalChessless wrote:
 

Ruthless 

Ruthless, senseless and completely offtopic.

AnnChess2

ESP-918 wrote:

I mean it's a 21st century, we have digital clocks now , some have smartphones with clock on it , so what even the point of having anolog clocks any more?

Should they all be discarded ?

ESP-918 wrote: I mean it's a 21st century, we have digital clocks now , some have smartphones with clock on it , so what even the point of having anolog clocks any more? Should they all be discarded ? digital are way better for sure but why on earth should we ban analog clocks? there are people who still use them

Bilbo21

Possibly less accurate (by at most 30s) but why would you ban them completely?  I think any major tournament uses digital now anyway.