does analyzing our games REALLY important?? how to analyze efficiently?? HELP!!

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GKfreak

i heard almost all strong players saying that analyzing our own games and learning from the mistake we done is the most efficient way to improve...but how to analyse?? 

all the mistakes that i found are just tactical mistakes or a few blunders... cant i just improve that part ( tactics ) by solving tactics puzzle?? why should i analyze then??

and the ideas behind the move, is always the SAME ( for me only of course ) after i analyzed the game, because the one that is playing the game ( making the idea ) is me, and the one that analyzing the game is me too, so how could i learn new strategic ideas from it???

Chess in my country is not that FAMOUS, so i cant get a good coach, i only can learn from books, which cannot help me to analyze game.......

help me pls~!!!!! by the way, i just learnt playing chess ( not enough half year ), i dont really have much experience, whatever comments i would accept whole-heartedly 

waffllemaster

I experienced the same problem when I first wanted to get better.  I heard advice from everyone to analyse your games and GM games, so a few times I tried to do this.  But the problems are just like you say, how can I come up with a new idea and find out that my move was bad if the only reason I played the move in the game was because I thought it was the best move?  How to spot my mistakes?

The best way when you're beginning IMO is to do some simple and quick analysis.  Then you go over that game with a strong player (say 2000+ at least).  They'll tell you what to think about, and your short notes will be a way to learn too... e.g. maybe your game move was good but your thoughts on it in the notes were bad!  It just gives you more ways to learn.

I do believe hard work on your own games gives a lot of benefit... but only after you know enough to work on them.  After you know the building blocks of how middlegames work (read for example Pachman's Modern Chess Strategy) and the same for endgames (for example Shereshevsky's Endgame Strategy, and probably add one other endgame book) you can start to think in terms of "this idea didn't work, what other reasonable ideas do I have in this position"

So if you don't or can't get a coach, and don't want to post in the analysis forum, then the next best course of action IMO is to play in tournaments (or a lot of games in general) and read books, and save the analysis for later.

TornadoTee

Analysing your chess games and enjoying chess are both important in developing your skill. 

 

When you analyse, you get a chance to see tactical and strategical patterns and familiarise yourself with them. Also, you can see your mistakes more clearly and understand why they are mistakes. 

 

For example, was it a mistake because you blundered? Was it a tactical trick? Was it more strategical and long-term?

 

Analysing and enjoying the game are both important aspects. 

ponz111

When you first start out--you will not have enough chess knowledge to analyze your own games. Even a 1800 rated player will not be able to analyze his own games adequately.  You need a high rated player or at least a chess engine...

DrSpudnik

I disagree with ponz. Engines are ruining people's ability to analyze anything. They depend too much on these gizmos that don't actually explain their decision-making processes aside from +0.2 or -0.7 etc.

ponz111

DrSpudnik  I mentioned a higher rated human would be best to help analyze games and only if a player did not have this type of help would he have to resort to a chess engine to at least get some ideas of his bad moves.

I agree they do not explain their decision making. But they can point out blunders and possibly bad moves.

A half of loaf of bread is better than no bread at all?

zupira

i think the best analysis deponding  on game archive,you may analysis your game afater  ending your game and find your problem in your play ,experince with kasparof chees prtograme or use book in this approch what you  will helpyourself in skill .also , paly game deponds on your goal for game if you have fun ,you will not have eachive in your projet skill but you want to try in future and economic .......

DrSpudnik

I just think these engines will provide tons of undigestible data and analysis that just wastes your time after a game. An opponent of mine gave me a 6-page printout of his engine's analysis for a game that I lost because of one bad decision--that I recognized fairly after the fact--in a crucial position. The whole thing was a waste of time.

Then again, if I lost because of a series of crappy moves, the (presumeably) 20 pages of text would be even more useless. Only tactics training & positional assessments would be helpful there.