does anand go down as the greatest player of all time

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SilentKnighte5
bishopandrooks wrote:

 

okay i see. Anyone who blunders can never be considered among the greatest of chess 

Correct.  Thanks for playing.

SmyslovFan

I think Yeres is trying to build up Fischer. Fischer was great, but he played fewer games than any world champion since WWII and yet still has a book (by Edmar Mednis) of his losses. One thing I really appreciate about Fischer is that when it came to chess, he was objective. He pointed out his blunders in My Sixty Memorable Games. His commentary on his game with Walther is priceless! Fischer's fans should remember this quality when judging others. 

Here's one game where Fischer blundered twice in 8 moves, on move 13 and move 21.



SmyslovFan
yeres30 wrote:

The blunder that Carlsen made and which Anand failed to see is a basic chess tactic - the in-between move or Zwischenzug.

What's your point? Which world champion do you think is better than Carlsen?

shell_knight

It's easy to miss stuff in tournament games that you or I wouldn't miss in blitz... because you're thinking deeply about some strategic theme, and the stress, for example.

Of course to players at that level it happens much less often, but it still happens.  Just proves they're human really.

SmyslovFan

Btw, Kasparov agreed that this world championship match wasn't played at the highest level. He didn't suggest that Carlsen was in some way undeserving, but he did point out that world championship matches make people prone to blunder (move 29 of game 1 in 1972 comes to mind).

I wonder how Fischer would have handled the modern treatment of the Berlin.

Indiachessking

Anand is his prime was only behind Kasparov. So, Anand is stronger than Carlsen ever will be.

SmyslovFan

Just read this article on Carlsen. 

Wow.

http://en.chessbase.com/post/polgar-playing-carlsen-feels-like-you-re-drowning

bishopandrooks
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
bishopandrooks wrote:

 

okay i see. Anyone who blunders can never be considered among the greatest of chess 

Correct.  Thanks for playing.

Sucks for Carlsen. The guy blundered twice in one year. Now he cant be considered the greatest ever..oh wait! Luckily,the world doesnt live by such asinine standards.

MainlineNovelty

Didn't SocialPanda already refute that in the other thread?

SmyslovFan

The guy's 24 years old, and already the best ever. That's not just me, that's Judit Polgar, who played Fischer, Kasparov and Carlsen speaking. 

Cristil66

Greatest overrated player of all time.

HungryChild
SmyslovFan wrote:

The guy's 24 years old, and already the best ever. That's not just me, that's Judit Polgar, who played Fischer, Kasparov and Carlsen speaking. 

Polgar played fischer in his prime???  I didnt know Carlsen was even a candidate for best ever.  It looked like Anand (who Kasparov crushed and is a poor old man now) gave Carlsen a pretty rough time.

shell_knight
pseudo-creep wrote:
I didnt know Carlsen was even a candidate for best ever.

New to chess huh?

HungryChild
shell_knight wrote:
pseudo-creep wrote:
I didnt know Carlsen was even a candidate for best ever.

New to chess huh?

He might be highest rated ever, what thats about it.

Indiachessking

Prime Anand is much better than Carlsen at any point of his life.

HungryChild
Indiachessking wrote:

Prime Anand is much better than Carlsen at any point of his life.

Probably.  Whether Anand is one of the greatest or not, I have know idea.  I really like his book though :)

Its interesting how he's like 'well, theres this and this tactic, but I wanted to simplify and grind them down...' or whatever

Still waiting for that to come out on ebook.

toiyabe
Indiachessking wrote:

Prime Anand is much better than Carlsen at any point of his life.

lol

HungryChild
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HungryChild
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:
Indiachessking wrote:

Prime Anand is much better than Carlsen at any point of his life.

lol"

how do I quote? lol

HungryChild
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