Does anybody else's intelligence fluctuate?

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frrixz

It seems that my pattern of winning and losing is:

win win win win lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose win win win lose lose lose lose

you get the idea.

Does intelligence fluctuate or is that just me?

Flamma_Aquila

We all do that. Some days, I play great (for me). I analyze sharply, see tactics in advance, and am just dialed in.

Other days, I may as well just be moving pieces at random.

I think one key to chess is to know when it isn't your day, and quit taking blitz drubbings over and over.

Skwerly

all the time.  i hate it.  :P

kco
BorgQueen wrote:

My intelligence is constant.  My chess playing ability fluctuates wildly.


 How can you say that your ability fluctuates while your intelligence remain constant ? Do you ever played badly when tired ? if so then your intelligence were not at it peak when tired.

ponz111

I probably have lost 40 IQ points for various reasons. :(  I can analyze to some extent but cannot play [except at a very low level]

frrixz
diogens wrote:

Has nothing to do with intelligence. Purely emotional.


I highly doubt emotions have anything to do with chess.

frrixz
BorgQueen wrote:
frrixz wrote:

I highly doubt emotions have anything to do with chess.


You'd be highly wrong.


I don't understand: It's all on the board, isn't it?

It's all pure logic.

xxdanielxx
frrixz wrote:
BorgQueen wrote:
frrixz wrote:

I highly doubt emotions have anything to do with chess.


You'd be highly wrong.


I don't understand: It's all on the board, isn't it?

It's all pure logic.


No, the emotions and psychological aspect can be anything upto 30-40% of the game. 

If you are angry, for example, you will unconciously play more agressive moves. They may be less sound and you probabally rarely calculate these...

xqsme

I NTELLIGENTSIA  and COGNOSCENTI both can get things wrong !!

RichColorado

Now you tell me that you have to have intelligence to play chess?

I always thought that it was blind luck when I won and I just sucked when I lost.

 

fburton
I imagine certain types of intelligence, notably spatial, are linked with chess skill. On the other hand, being intelligent clearly isn't enough to be good at chess. There are very specific skills that need to be trained, and it would appear that the chess brain 'hardware' needs to be developed at an early enough age if one is to be REALLY good. How well and quickly I can think definitely does vary from day to day. I particularly notice differences in verbal ability. Why that happens, I have no idea - but it is annoying knowing that one is not in peak form mentally and not being able to do anything about it. Maybe modafinil or similar is the answer to that one.
xqsme

Not to mention noises off..noises on ..delays and interruptions.

bobarello556

Chess can be up to 30-40% of the game, for example if you are angry you will do more agressive moves as I think kco said. Though this only applies to humans.

Shredder will not get angry at Houdini if it loses. It will not use Microsoft Sam to say something mean.  And computers always play to the same strength unless the processor speed or software algorithm is changed.

For my rating, I am new to the site and have not lost yet but I soon will. My intelligence does not fluctuate but in real life my chess rating (USCF 2087) can change alot.

Back to computers, they are not very prone to change of strength; like the comment above does not apply very often unless the noise is so loud that the computer will erode and the elo strength will be zero largely because the computer eroded. 

Alright, so computer chess ratings don't change but human chess ratings do.

trysts

Just based upon comments from chess players on the forums, I see "intelligence" vary wildly, while in comparison, chess player's strength is much more consistent.

ponz111
fburton wrote:
I imagine certain types of intelligence, notably spatial, are linked with chess skill. On the other hand, being intelligent clearly isn't enough to be good at chess. There are very specific skills that need to be trained, and it would appear that the chess brain 'hardware' needs to be developed at an early enough age if one is to be REALLY good. How well and quickly I can think definitely does vary from day to day. I particularly notice differences in verbal ability. Why that happens, I have no idea - but it is annoying knowing that one is not in peak form mentally and not being able to do anything about it. Maybe modafinil or similar is the answer to that one.

ponz111

Due to some health problems I was tested for memory, spatial etc. My spatial used to be very high--I could play blindfold chess for example. Now my spatial is quite low and this has really affected my chess ability and play. Spatial has very much to do with chess playing.

frrixz

The whole reason to play chess is to get away from emotion.

trysts
frrixz wrote:

The whole reason to play chess is to get away from emotion.


That's the most futile reason to play chess in the history of human beingsLaughing

planeden

i don't understand this.  i will try again tomorrow.

Frankdawg

Natalia Pogonina said something like a players strength fluctuates by about 200 relative to there elo rating.

So a 2000 player will play like an 1800 some games and a 2200 others, and something in between for the rest.

So if you are a 1500 player going up against an 1800 player if you are on your best game being 1700 you might win if they are having a bad game around 1600.