The French is indestructible!
Even corny sidelines aren't enough to take Black down. I had such a game last night, and whether or not I could win is debatable as I didn't have a whole lot of time left on the clock, but the point is that the Black King isn't going down! There is no way to destroy the French!
I make no claim at perfect play by White or Black, but again, this is the human factor to chess. We are not all robots, and so whether a computer says +0.5 or -0.5 is irrelevant!
The French is indestructible!
Even corny sidelines aren't enough to take Black down. I had such a game last night, and whether or not I could win is debatable as I didn't have a whole lot of time left on the clock, but the point is that the Black King isn't going down! There is no way to destroy the French!
I make no claim at perfect play by White or Black, but again, this is the human factor to chess. We are not all robots, and so whether a computer says +0.5 or -0.5 is irrelevant!
What was the time control for this game? I'm surprised such a strong player would play the KIA approach to the French and then play 3. Nc3!?
whats wrong with nc3 here? only reason i dont like this order is bc 3...nf6 is kind of annoying with threats of either dxe4 and e5! or bb4
The French is indestructible!
Even corny sidelines aren't enough to take Black down. I had such a game last night, and whether or not I could win is debatable as I didn't have a whole lot of time left on the clock, but the point is that the Black King isn't going down! There is no way to destroy the French!
I make no claim at perfect play by White or Black, but again, this is the human factor to chess. We are not all robots, and so whether a computer says +0.5 or -0.5 is irrelevant!
What was the time control for this game? I'm surprised such a strong player would play the KIA approach to the French and then play 3. Nc3!?
I have seen it suggested by others in YouTube videos.
The French is indestructible!
Even corny sidelines aren't enough to take Black down. I had such a game last night, and whether or not I could win is debatable as I didn't have a whole lot of time left on the clock, but the point is that the Black King isn't going down! There is no way to destroy the French!
I make no claim at perfect play by White or Black, but again, this is the human factor to chess. We are not all robots, and so whether a computer says +0.5 or -0.5 is irrelevant!
What was the time control for this game? I'm surprised such a strong player would play the KIA approach to the French and then play 3. Nc3!?
White was a kid, about 12 or so, and so probably worked his butt off on tactics and doesn't know opening theory.
The Time Control was Game in 75 Minutes with a 15 Second Increment per move.
He also moves to fast and doesn't really think. At move 36, the critical point, he had 61 minutes left, I had 14. Of course, I knew the rest of it, so I gained time after that.
At game end, he had 59 minutes to my 16.
whats wrong with nc3 here? only reason i dont like this order is bc 3...nf6 is kind of annoying with threats of either dxe4 and e5! or bb4
not particularly convinced by this of reasoning. by that same line of reasoning, black is playing agaisnt a kid with the pawn misplaced on e6. ne2 may seem like a tempo waste but it supports c3 more than nd2 does.
ugly position? i quite like white.
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have you failed to realize that the line is basically a KID a move up?
that other position is just better for black. completely different though. weakened kingside,misplaced knight on c2, (knight on e2 supports f4, c3 and is ready to move to g3 once the kingside pawnstorm begins) less development etc.
I've had slightly better results as White with the Advance Variation than with 3 Nc3 and the Winawer or similar variations: I've gotten myself into awkward Q-side positions after ...Bxc3 bxc3.
Nevertheless, I'm still playing 3 Nc3 because I know I'm understanding more about it each game.
A while back, I noticed on chess.com's Opening Explorer that White tends to do well with the Exchange Variation with Be3 and copied and saved this image to my computer's French Defense folder, though I haven't tried it yet:
based on 3 games lmao. "it scores well". what kind of induction is that?
Overrun the Maginot Line.
No, bad idea!
A better idea is to go around it. Who cares if you plow through a few neutral countries in the process? That brings up the next question: how to beat the Dutch?
If someone really knew how to destroy the French Defense--he would not put it is a chess forum on chess.com.
Ok, time for a serious answer:
The top players seem to have settled on the Steinitz as their main weapon against the French. I don't think this is a coincidence. The Steinitz is a very nasty line that gives white a very nice spatial edge and has several concrete threats that are difficult to answer.
have you failed to realize that the line is basically a KID a move up?
that other position is just better for black. completely different though. weakened kingside,misplaced knight on c2, (knight on e2 supports f4, c3 and is ready to move to g3 once the kingside pawnstorm begins) less development etc.
Nope, I actually stated it was the KIA vs the French (which is a common way to challenge the French, but the usual way to do so is more aggressive than what was played in Thriller's game). And even in the KID, Nbd7 is far more common than Nc6. All in all, it is just a very passive position from white - no real weaknesses, but no real strengths either.
admits its a KID, calls the position passive lol
I've had slightly better results as White with the Advance Variation than with 3 Nc3 and the Winawer or similar variations: I've gotten myself into awkward Q-side positions after ...Bxc3 bxc3.
Nevertheless, I'm still playing 3 Nc3 because I know I'm understanding more about it each game.
A while back, I noticed on chess.com's Opening Explorer that White tends to do well with the Exchange Variation with Be3 and copied and saved this image to my computer's French Defense folder, though I haven't tried it yet:
based on 3 games lmao. "it scores well". what kind of induction is that?
Popularity is declining. If I recall correctly its been in a long term slide. I dont know what the % is, but mine is 3% play it as black vs e4 . Whether its the exchange variation or whatever, French has a large turnover%. Im seeing c5,e5,&c6 account for almost all games....with d5 4th. Maybe others are seeing it more frequently? Or until one of top level players includes it in his or her repertoire....idk.
The KIA shows up a fair bit in the rapid/blitz chess of top players such as Carlsen, Naka and Caruana. You may not find it in the big databases, but they're playing it online against other top players. It's a good way to get to unusual but sound positions that haven't been analyzed to death.
For those who are interested in learning more about the KIA, check out the works of Mark Dvoretsky.
this is an intersection point between french and sicilian.
@darkunorthodox88, you forgot to include the moves.
In the mean time, take a look at this blitz game:
this is an intersection point between french and sicilian.
Did you mean to post the opening position? As yes, that is a great intersection point between the Sicilian and French (and every other opening for that matter)
idk why its coming out like that let me see if i can fix it.
If someone really knew how to destroy the French Defense--he would not put it is a chess forum on chess.com.
Ok, time for a serious answer:
The top players seem to have settled on the Steinitz as their main weapon against the French. I don't think this is a coincidence. The Steinitz is a very nasty line that gives white a very nice spatial edge and has several concrete threats that are difficult to answer.
Smyslov, stop trolling the TS despite his naive question. 
The Steinitz variation cannot be a ''white'' choice ,so that players with white can ''settle'' on it. It is the player with black who decides if this variation will ever emerge.He can play 3. ...Bb4 and we have a Nimzovitch or Tartakower variation or choose the Classical or Steinitz with 3. ...Nf6. He can even play 3. ...dxe and settle for a solid but somewhat passive position in the Rubinstein variation.
To the TS :
The French Defence has been played for centuries by world champions and top GMs for a reason.It is good and irrefutable. The proper question would then be ''how to deal with it as white?''
The answer is find a variation for white that you can understand and feel comfortable with ,study games of top players who play this variation,understand the ideas behind the moves and play games. In time, you will be able to play well against it, although there will always be players who are better than you and me and will beat us.That is the beauty of chess that our losses help us improve and our wins are confirmation that we have learned our lessons.
If someone really knew how to destroy the French Defense--he would not put it is a chess forum on chess.com.