Can Doubling Pawns Ever Backfire?

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When I studied at the esteemed Oxfordshire Chessing Academy from ages 5 to 12, I was first taught the elementary fundamentals of Chess strategy. 

Some of which I question as I mature as a Chessist, Chesser or even Chessian. 

Fundamentals such as castling early as possible, or keeping your Knight on the rim to keep the opponent dim are accepted by me as cardinal rules of Chess strategy.

However, some things I was taught seem dubious at best. One of which is the idea that doubled pawns should be kept on open or semi-open files. Let's take a look at this daily game I'm playing. 

At first glance, black looks much better. I have expertly put my opponent in a compromising position. I have not one, but two sets of doubled pawns on semi-open files. I should be better right? But no, I can't in any way find an advantage. This is at best a slight advantage for me, but looks extremely drawish. I have just resigned this game out of respect to my opponent, as I do not want the game to be affected by suggestions in the comments. I just want to use it as an example of how doubled pawns don't always lead to winning positions. 

 

 

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Have u been learning the wrong things? Doubled pawns are usually weak!
Avatar of I_Wear_Socks

I studied there as well (class of 99). This game is a 1 in a million, possibly even 1 in a billion.

The exception proves the rule. 

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Expertly put your opponent in a compromising position? Oh you mean his king trapped near a corner, his lack of doubled or tripled pawns,  and his failure to recognize the strength of your pawns on the b file. It's amazing he didnt resign earlier.

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Is this a troll attempt or a serious question?

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Jenium wrote:

Is this a troll attempt or a serious question?

"When I studied at the esteemed Oxfordshire Chessing Academy..."

Totally serious. happy.png

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One more set of doubled pawn and you should be winning easily.

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http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044229

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OK, but quadrupled pawns will win for sure.

 

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nice troll

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I would never double an opponent's pawns if it helped them develop in some way, or even if the forward pawn would take a square away from my knight or something. I'm not really that type of player anyway, I'll only do it if I can pile up on it at some point, or if an opening system calls for it. Usually I'm too busy trying to look for puzzle like scenarios.
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can smoking exploding cigars ever backfire ? seriously though, i once had a game with tripled e-pawns, totally stifled my opponents centre, what a win that was!

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LethalRook_1892 wrote:
Have u been learning the wrong things? Doubled pawns are usually weak!

I am demonstrating in the game that they can sometimes be weak. This is not usually the case at all. Please re-read Nimzowitsch's My system. 

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lfPatriotGames wrote:

Expertly put your opponent in a compromising position? Oh you mean his king trapped near a corner, his lack of doubled or tripled pawns,  and his failure to recognize the strength of your pawns on the b file. It's amazing he didnt resign earlier.

This must be sarcasm. You see my opponent is actually better here surprisingly, despite the tremendous pressure put on both the G and B file by my doubled pawns. At first at looked like a slight advantage or at worst a draw for me, but after putting through a chess engine I found that I am actually worse. 

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I_Wear_Socks wrote:

I studied there as well (class of 99). This game is a 1 in a million, possibly even 1 in a billion.

The exception proves the rule. 

Class of 99? Was the Grand Duke of Chesshamptington still lecturing at the time? I heard he retired some years back. 

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In my opinion it was more or less an equal position, but you would have got a psychological edge if you had spotted the crucial move: 14.fxe5, getting another pair of doubled pawns with a big center. Those kind of positions tend to scare most sub-GM players, resulting in them losing the initiative and ultimately losing miserably.

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kingofshedinjas wrote:

In my opinion it was more or less an equal position, but you would have got a psychological edge if you had spotted the crucial move: 14.fxe5, getting another pair of doubled pawns with a big center. Those kind of positions tend to scare most sub-GM players, resulting in them losing the initiative and ultimately losing miserably.

Wow you're absolutely right! 

14. fxe5 wins on the spot! How in the world did I miss that? 

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I once had quadrupled pawns. Rip that game
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"Knight on the rim makes the opponent dim."
I died! XD
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LM_player wrote:
I once had quadrupled pawns. Rip that game

Impressive. Can you post it. You must have dominated that file! 

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