Does this defense have a name?

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Is this just some scrub defense I made up on the fly or does it have a name?, usually it says (insert opening name) and the defense name this just said the opening.

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It starts out like an anti colle thing, and then resembles a hedgehog structure where black still has his c pawn.

That's the short answer, but it would be fun to look at it some more so I'll post a longer one too.

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The opening (lets say the first 6 moves) is a sort of anti colle setup or whatever they call it. The point is the opponent's thematic pawn break (e4) will not be a pawn break at all because you're not playing d5

White can use this setup too, and if the opponent goes for a stonewall it turns into something like your game. For example

 

 

And in a real game

 

 

Now lets look at your game

 

 

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Yeah, it basically looks like a semi-closed Hedgehog. No special name, AFAIK.

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I didn't have anything in mind  besides playing  c5 since i usually play an english open as white I just tried to kinda copy it but with black,  but not being able to move 1st I couldn't get set up,  and this  just kinda happened responding to my opponents moves but I just like the way almost all my pawns moved to the 3rd rank 

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jtucker521 wrote:

I didn't have anything in mind  besides playing  c5 since i usually play an english open as white I just tried to kinda copy it but with black,  but not being able to move 1st I couldn't get set up,  and this  just kinda happened responding to my opponents moves but I just like the way almost all my pawns moved to the 3rd rank 

 

Also looks a like a, English attack in a Scheveningen Sicilian but with white never playing d4. I think one idea is for white to not castle and storm the kingside with pawns, that small center is great defensively but not as good at opening the middle?

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Tbh when I'm practicing I almost exclusively play white and work on trying to get the English down, when I play black i'm pretty much winging it , just a FYI I have only been playing chess a few months 

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jtucker521 wrote:

Tbh when I'm practicing I almost exclusively play white and work on trying to get the English down, when I play black i'm pretty much winging it , just a FYI I have only been playing chess a few months 

 

If you have only been playing a few months you should be really proud of that game that was a solid game (you missed a couple of quicker mates before the end), Kudos!

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Sometimes when your playing, the moves seem a lot easier to see then others, this was one of those games, I know as a beginner people say to play open positions more but I feel nice and safe playing the English Botvinnik system,  I feel defended and not a lot of surprise moves where I get myself into trouble at the start of the game, then I just kinda wait and hope my opponent gets frustrated or makes a mistake lol

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I kinda want to use that same type of system playing Black, if anyone knows what that would be, let me know. Thanks in advance

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jtucker521 wrote:

I kinda want to use that same type of system playing Black, if anyone knows what that would be, let me know. Thanks in advance

Yep look up the hedgehog defense.

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googling it now