Done with this site for playing chess...

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Sobrukai
MrAWD2 wrote:
Sobrukai wrote:

Chess.com does not pair you against bots. Sometimes players have good and bad days which is the cause of the performance swings you are describing.

Perhaps you are correct there. But, I am playing on Li.com and I don't see such a big fluctuations there - this is the only site that has it at this level and I am just too tired of it. For months, I was playing with 1900s rating and sometimes it would dip into 1800s and sometimes I would be in 2000s. Since the month or so ago, I am at 1600s level, while at the LI.com, I am still where I was most of the time - 2100 that is, with dips into 1900s and 2200s on the other end. Something is wrong here and the only explanation I have is that bots are messing with everything here and I decided to take a break from playing here.

I don’t know the lichess system so you may be correct, but I do know that lichess in a even match up is 6/0/-6 while on chess.com it’s 8/0/-8. This means that it takes more wins and losses to lose a certain sum of elo, making the pairing difficulty feel more representative of the shown elo of your opponents. Additionally, I know that lichess ratings are inflated. My rapid elo on my lichess account is 2230 at the moment, considerably higher than my rating here. Therefore, you should not expect to be able to handle chess.com opponents with an equivalent rating of your lichess rating, which would explain the fact that your chess.com rating is considerably lower than your lichess rating.

mikewier

I looked at your last several losses. I see no evidence that your opponents were bots. They hung pieces (including a queen), made mistakes in the opening, and generally played quite poorly.

the problem is that you are playing bullet. Ratings are horribly unreliable at that speed.

If you want to play opponents whose ratings are more accurate, play slow time controls.

Martin_Stahl
xor_eax_eax05 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:

The site does not use bots in the player pools. You're playing other member accounts.

I get it they are not bots. But are there shadow pools? For "sus" players with no conclusive evidence to ban them, so they get moved into a different player pool, where they play others in similar situation?

These issues in the elo ladder have been brought up a tens of times, plenty of examples of games against players who play way beyond the average expected play level.

As far as I'm aware there's nothing like that. There's a poor sportsmanship pool but that's for those that have higher disconnect/abort/abandonment rates.

xor_eax_eax05
MrAWD2 wrote:

To be honest, I don't know who makes the players play like bots would do in the live section. But, the type of the games they play there points to some huge discrepancy for the playing level. The only problem is that those players are all rated in 1600s and they should not play at that level, and not like that. To go from one game were opponent barely knows how to play chess to the next one where I loose and they have more then 30 sec left on the clock. Other examples are where games start pretty poorly, but closer to the end game, they start playing like they are 2000+ all of the sudden. Humans don't do that!

This exact thing you are describing has been brought many times in the past, across all different elo brackets

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/its-not-adding-up

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-unbeatable-strength-of-very-low-rated-players

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chess-com-bots-7

Etc.

A quick google search will give loads of other threads with people saying a similar thing.

sndeww
MrAWD2 wrote:
After a long time playing here, I just had enough. Playing against site generated bots is just out of hand here. I understand that sites like this one need those so people have enough players to play with. But, recently, 1600 bots are playing like 2000 players. Site was always changing settings on those and every once in a while things would go out of hand. For the last month or so, things are completely out of hand. My rating here used to be in 1900s and 2000s. On other sites, I have similar ratings (Li is around 2100 right now) to those. Here, I am in now in low 1600s and mostly play against similarly rated players! Those players fit levels from barely know how to play, someone that plays at 2000 level, to games that I loose with opponent having more then 30 sec left on their clock. And, I play almost exclusively 1 min games here. Unless this site figures out how to tune their bots to play consistently at whatever level they are set to play, I am out of here. Good luck!

Have you tried playing better

MrAWD2

This is a picture from this site:

Could anyone in here explain what happened here in the middle of February regarding to my rating? Did I just get more stupid all of the sudden or have some brain issue that keeps me at 1600 levels?

Clockwork_Nemesis
That diagnosis is between you and your doctor
caljao215

???? ur playing people

PlayerIDC

Wdym by playing against bots? Like someone using an engine or smth?

mythrandiiir
It sounds like the author is mad because he is losing. Here is an idea. Get better. Stop whining. Of all the things to act entitled to, smh.
HangingPiecesChomper

I think the easiest way for chess.com to prove that we're not playing bots is to drop the ip address and device ids of everybody we play.

Martin_Stahl
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

I think the easiest way for chess.com to prove that we're not playing bots is to drop the ip address and device ids of everybody we play.

That's never going to happen and is a complete privacy violation. It also wouldn't actually prove anything to those that believe the site uses bots

Falkentyne

I don't see any bots.
You're playing bullet, which is a clown fiesta.
In one of your games, you lost on time when you had mate in 9 tons of material up.

In the next game, you played a bad line of the french, taking on c3 prematurely (instead of developing), allowing white two B's by taking on f3, rather than simply developing your knight to f6. (Note that black taking on e4 can NOT be countered by Qg4, because of Nxc3 Qxg7 Qh4+!). He then blundered and you had a winning position and then hung your queen.

In the next game, your move 8 f4 was an absurd move. Then it was missed wins and blunders constantly until you lost on time.

You are not being paired with bots. This is a skill issue.

PlayerIDC

I agree with the chess master here. You just need to improve and keep in mind that losing is part of the game, it is a way tp learn you're mistakes. Sure could be frustrating, but it's part of the game.

HangingPiecesChomper

Why are people acting like bots dont make mistake on purpose? Obviously the bots make a lot of bad moves on purpose otherwise they would steamroll every game.

In fact they make too many mistakes which is unrealistic, a real human wouldnt play that bad.

emilio1689

> Done with this site for playing chess...

Bye

PlayerIDC
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

Why are people acting like bots dont make mistake on purpose? Obviously the bots make a lot of bad moves on purpose otherwise they would steamroll every game.

In fact they make too many mistakes which is unrealistic, a real human wouldnt play that bad.

Unless you're playing with Martin, there is no way bots make very bad moves on purpose. I have played computers on this site and they make good moves, not bad ones on purpose.

Martin_Stahl
PlayerIDC wrote:

Unless you're playing with Martin, there is no way bots make very bad moves on purpose. I have played computers on this site and they make good moves, not bad ones on purpose.

Many of the bots make bad moves, especially at lower rating levels. Of course, so do humans.

justbefair
MrAWD2 wrote:

This is a picture from this site:
Could anyone in here explain what happened here in the middle of February regarding to my rating? Did I just get more stupid all of the sudden or have some brain issue that keeps me at 1600 levels?

It looks like you switched from playing 1|1 to 1|0 games.

Wilsons_World

I have nothing bad to say about this, I wish you the best of luck my friend.