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I was penalized into a draw when I clearly beat my opponent. My opponent stalled for 6 minutes and then made a couple of moves with his only piece the King. I kept my opponent in check with a variety of moves to avoid the dreaded stalemate. But the computer still declared a stalemate. This is wrong 

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Yes, it was a draw by repetition, which means that the same position was repeated three times in the same game, although not necessarily consecutively. In the diagram below (your game), you repeated the same position on move 67, 69, and 71.
 

 

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You cannot reach the same position 3 times. In OTB, I don't believe it's automatic, and someone must declare a draw

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Frankfurterstein wrote:

I want to be an attorney someday and represent you in your dire need. We can not let this happen again.

 

A player...

 

who just joined 11 hours ago...

 

representing a player whose account is more than one year old?

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LeeEuler wrote:

You cannot reach the same position 3 times. In OTB, I don't believe it's automatic, and someone must declare a draw

 

OTB can never be "automatic". Even five times repetition.

 

Someone, either the arbiter, a spectator or one of the players, has to claim/declare it.

 

On this site, a three-fold repetition of positions is sufficient for an immediate, automatic ruling (if I remember).

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eric0022 wrote:
LeeEuler wrote:

You cannot reach the same position 3 times. In OTB, I don't believe it's automatic, and someone must declare a draw

 

OTB can never be "automatic". Even five times repetition.

 

Someone, either the arbiter, a spectator or one of the players, has to claim/declare it.

 

On this site, a three-fold repetition of positions is sufficient for an immediate, automatic ruling (if I remember).

Correct, It's automatic on chess.com. In OTB, if I remember correctly players can claim a draw at 3 repetitions, but at 5 repetition, the arbiter has to end the game.

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The game terminates in a draw after 5 repetitions whether or not anyone notices. Anything after that should be ignored, but of course someone has to notice sometime to ignore anything after that.

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@MARattigan How would the game terminate without anyone noticing? That seems impossible.

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K_Simonson wrote:

@MARattigan How would the game terminate without anyone noticing? That seems impossible.

It terminates under the rules. The players are free to continue moving, but it's not part of the same game.

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Ah, I see.

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@stigney

No doubt galling to play such a long game and fail on a technicality.

The moral is, when you've clearly beat him then beat him.

This should have been easy once you had the queen. E.g. as in the insert below (which probably takes twice as long as it should). 

(Similarly after move 60 the black king is confined to two corner squares, so Nc4, Nd6, Qb7#.)