Drunk Grandmaster

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http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5740

I read this article and was shocked that so little was done to " punish " this professional player for his drunken behavior ! What do you think should be done, if anything ?

kohai

I posted on this aswell, the news article i saw focused more on his falling asleep during the tournament match though

Scarblac

I think he should have been expelled from the tournament.

aansel

First get him help--clearly he has a drinking problem that must be serious. This is not the first time he has shown bad behavior as he did not show up for the last round of the Dresden Olympiad and the French team had to forfeit his board.

Once he has help and fixed his drinking issue, I would fine him and put him on probation for two years.

TadDude

Looks like there is no punishment. 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/chess/top-stories/Drunk-GM-apologises-for-his-behaviour/articleshow/4974442.cms

He was allowed to play Round 4. I suppose the punishment may be fewer invitations in the future.

Skwerly

I feel it would be different if he was just a "partier", or a young punk flatbiller with a chip on his shoulder and a barbed-wire tattoo on his arm.  As I mentioned in another post about this, he has depression and alcohol issues, and is trying to correct them both.

Give the poor guy a little wiggle room!  Cool

TadDude

Wrote too soon. Looks like there will be a delay before punishment is decided.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6821924.ece

“What happened is unfortunate, it's in bad taste," he told the newspaper. “It’s in bad taste. Once the event is over, we will hold a meeting and decide how to proceed against this player."

JG27Pyth

I don't understand why he needs additional punishment, honest. He loses his game, he suffers the humiliation of looking like a jackass, and he has his misbehavior written about and broadcast around the world. What more do folks want? He didn't hurt anyone but himself. He may have hurt whoever sponsored him into the tournament... but the punishment for that seems pretty clear... he's going to have a harder and harder time getting sponsorships and appearance fees if this behavior continues.

I don't get the pile-on mentality: Oh here's someone having a hard time, let's really kick him while he's down. 

goldendog

If I were a rules-obeying participant of the competition I'd be aghast at whatever prestige I and the event had taking such a nosedive because we have drunk members, and still more aghast that there is some tolerance for them.

He should have been escorted out of the playing area and prohibited from returning, along with a 5-year ban, for example, from the hosting federation's events. Some kind of ban from FIDE as well.

Chad_10_16

hi

Maradonna

I think goldendog is trying to stir the pot for a wee bit of fun. There's no way you believe what you wrote :)

batgirl

I agree with JG27Pyth, though it took me 4 tries to type his name. . . an I'm perfectly sober.

katalyst

i don't see the big deal. Big deal if a grandmaster shows up drunk to a competition. It was his choice. He lost a match on time, he didn't do anything to outlandish. Just things that fall under the jurisdictions of a bad cold.

TonicoTinoco

He needs help, not punishment!

chessoholicalien

Apparently he was playing the Smirnoff Gambit :-)

EternalChess
chessoholicalien wrote:

Apparently he was playing the Smirnoff Gambit :-)


 I wanan see the game, any1 care post it?

and i wonder what the Smirnoff Gambit is.. does it involve gambiting your queen for control of the center?

ivandh

Having not read the article or anything else about it, I think he should go free. Next we'll be calling for punishments against stacking chess pieces during tournaments.

C-Saw

I dont know about going free..I really do think though that having the world know about the situation is probably enough to straighten anyone up. But if not, then he should certainly be banned for a year and then probation . If he really wants to play..he will show it.

philtheforce

Although this does sound slightly funny .... i agree with the fact that there should be some sort of punishment and it does slightly show a lack of respect and it also sets a bad role model for younger chess viewers. Chess and drink are related as in all sports (if you define it as a sport)! What are the FIDE rules on this .... do they have specific rules for this type of behaviour?

marvellosity

Totally disagree that he should be punished further.

He lost his game in that round (a real world equivalent of having pay deducted, as that's what finishing lower down the order is) and he runs the risk that organisers may not invite him to events in future.

This seems more than enough for being a bit piddled.