Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual new released at Chessable

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jbolden1517

I bought it because of the sale.  I think the book is too advanced for me but on there have been topics in Jesús de la Villa's endgame book I wanted more on.   It seems like the standard reference so why not.  You should mention it is on intro sale for the next 6 days. 

kindaspongey

"... the 2000+ player for which 100 Endgames You Must Know is really intended ..."

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf

"... Players from 2000 up to International Master will find 100 ENDGAMES YOU MUST KNOW quite useful." - IM John Donaldson

http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know-78p3863.htm

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf

kindaspongey

Van Perlo's Endgame Tactics

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708234128/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review555.pdf

http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/996.pdf

kindaspongey

Here is a sample from Fundamental Chess Endings:

http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Fundamental_Chess_Endings.pdf

EsotericPA

I can't speak for anyone else, but I love chessable and I love DEM, along with several other books mentioned, and I am a scrub chess player.

Novagames

If an author of a particular chess book dont put any rating restriction in it why people should follow some third party xyz reviewers research is beyond my comprehension level.

Taskinen

I plan on getting it eventually, but currently I'm only about 15% through on Van Perlos bible (Endgame Tactics). It has about 150 000 words of instruction and 1500 variations, so it will take me a while, before I can fully commit to another 200 000 word book, as much as DEM has been praised.

The only issue I have with Chessable is that they keep bringing out interesting books faster than I can read them...

SmyslovFan

Van Perlo's book is excellent, as is 100 Endgames You Must Know. Take a look at @kindaspongey's link to the review for more details.

torrubirubi
Yes, Chessable is bringing out incredible books, and I also bought too many. It is time now for me to focus more on learning. I decided to do regularly DEM until I finish the main variations, and at the same time finish all Colovic's repertoire against everything but 1.e4. And of course go on doing tactics.

My biggest concern now is the Sicilian (Hyper Accelerated Dragon? Or the Sveshnikov?). I simply cannot imagine playing the Sicilian only by following opening principles. The bad thing of playing only Daily Chess is that I can follow my books, and there is no need for memorisation of openings.
Novagames
JamesColeman wrote:

Why would any author do that, though? They want as many people to buy a book as possible, regardless of whether or not it’s at a suitable level...

 

 

That's very true,but modern coaches think there are all kind of skills in chess like tactical skill,opening skill endgame skill etc.So rating range as a whole is little confusing and demotivating who want to work hard.My point is simple if you can understand a learn from a book go read and you will benefit from it.Not to mention we had  the chess period not so very long when people dont had any ratings.:-)

jbolden1517
Novagames wrote:

Not to mention we had  the chess period not so very long when people dont had any ratings.:-)

 

I think they sort of did but they were more like today's golf handicaps for ratings .  Chess players had a  handicap do you get against the best player in a better club: pawn odds, knight odds, rook odds, queen odds... ? 

kindaspongey
"If an author of a particular chess book dont put any rating restriction in it why people should follow some third party xyz reviewers research is beyond my comprehension level." - Novagames
Novagames wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

Why would any author do that, though? They want as many people to buy a book as possible, regardless of whether or not it’s at a suitable level...

That's very true,but modern coaches think there are all kind of skills in chess like tactical skill,opening skill endgame skill etc.So rating range as a whole is little confusing and demotivating who want to work hard.My point is simple if you can understand a learn from a book go read and you will benefit from it. ...

If a person wants to work hard, review comments can be ignored, but some players are not so eager to work hard on something if they are at a stage where the contemplated material is of limited value. A reviewer can warn potential readers about that. Of course, opinions can vary, and, as you note, a rating does not totally determine what a player can usefully read. It seems to me that even approximate information can provide helpful guidance. I often encourage people to also look at online samples from a book under consideration.

"... the approach towards the study of the endgame must be multi-staged and always keep the same pace as the player's overall playing level. Therefore, the different stages must be separated in time, if necessary. ... Almost any amateur who is willing to put in a small amount of work, is able to achieve [the first stage] ... and actually that is enough until one reaches, say, a FIDE rating of around 1900-2000. ..." - GM Jesus de la Villa (2008)

"... It is for this 'second phase' that the bulk of [100 Endgames You Must Know] was written, roughly for players rated between 2000 and 2400. …"

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf

IMKeto
torrubirubi wrote:
Yes, Chessable is bringing out incredible books, and I also bought too many. It is time now for me to focus more on learning. I decided to do regularly DEM until I finish the main variations, and at the same time finish all Colovic's repertoire against everything but 1.e4. And of course go on doing tactics.

My biggest concern now is the Sicilian (Hyper Accelerated Dragon? Or the Sveshnikov?). I simply cannot imagine playing the Sicilian only by following opening principles. The bad thing of playing only Daily Chess is that I can follow my books, and there is no need for memorisation of openings.

 

Thats what i do.  Daily chess, and follow my chessable books.

simplydt
NichtGut wrote:

Chessable is the pirate bay of chess. They seem to be copying and pasting books, specially opening ones. 

Hi everyone! Just to re-iterate and clarify, Chessable operates with full permission of the copyright owners and the lion's share of the revenue goes directly to them to support their great work.

The above posters remarks are wildly inaccurate and his later sarcasm about Dvoretsky "uploading it himself" downright rude. As our course page clearly states we are working with the publisher Russell Enterprises.

Russell Enterprises have always upheld Dvoretsky's work to the highest standards only. We believe we have done it justice in our conversion to interactive, spaced-repetition trainable format.

Torrubirubi, thanks for the kind words about the book on these forums, much appreciated! happy.png We'll keep working hard to bring your favourite books to life! Cheers.
-David
(together with IM John Bartholomew, we co-founded Chessable)

torrubirubi

Thanks for popping up and for the clarifications David!

IMKeto
simplydt wrote:
NichtGut wrote:

Chessable is the pirate bay of chess. They seem to be copying and pasting books, specially opening ones. 

Hi everyone! Just to re-iterate and clarify, Chessable operates with full permission of the copyright owners and the lion's share of the revenue goes directly to them to support their great work.

The above posters remarks are wildly inaccurate and his later sarcasm about Dvoretsky "uploading it himself" downright rude. As our course page clearly states we are working with the publisher Russell Enterprises.

Russell Enterprises have always upheld Dvoretsky's work to the highest standards only. We believe we have done it justice in our conversion to interactive, spaced-repetition trainable format.

Torrubirubi, thanks for the kind words about the book on these forums, much appreciated!  We'll keep working hard to bring your favourite books to life! Cheers.
-David
(together with IM John Bartholomew, we co-founded Chessable)

 

Thank You David,

If you were aware of NichtGuts's history here, you would understand his remarks mean nothing and come from ignorance.  But coming to the defense of chessable was the correct thing to do.  As misinformation is not healthy for a site.