e4 VS d4!!

Sort:
Avatar of suckage

C4 never fails me

Avatar of Phelon

"I have found that after 1.d4 there are more opportunities for richer play." - Gary kasparov.

Avatar of f7ello

"I have found that after 1.d4 there are more opportunities for richer play." - Gary Kasparov.

Avatar of einstein99

"I have found the meaning to life, " God does not play dice with the universe" - Einstein

Avatar of JM3000

"according to Hans Berliner d4 is better than e4 because d4 is defended by the queen...."

This is true but when white play d4 black can play d5 and also obtain a central pawn defended by the queen. If white plays e4 for play d5 black pay a price. If white play e4 white can put more pression against e5 that  white against d5 in a d4 game. In the other hand against e4 black can play c5! and against d4 black can pay a price to play f5. 

Avatar of einstein99

This Berliner guy sounds vaguely familiar to me. Aha! Ich bin Einstein Berliner!

Avatar of Phantom_of_the_Opera

I have never played c4, I think e4 and d4 are both better, any one agree?

Avatar of Scottrf

Na I think d4>c4> e4.

Avatar of upen2002
Phantom_of_the_Opera wrote:

I have never played c4, I think e4 and d4 are both better, any one agree?

I agree

Avatar of varelse1

Phantom_of_the_Opera wrote:

I have never played c4, I think e4 and d4 are both better, any one agree?

.

.

Of course, everyone knows whites very best first move is 1.c4. But which s second best? An interesting question!

If I couldn't pkay 1.c4 for whatever reason, I would likely play 1.d4. Granted, it's no c4. But still, it is not entirely without merit.

Interesting thread, OP

Avatar of PerfectConscience

Although statistically c4 is good it isn't the best opening. e4 is best by test and d4 too is equally good.

Avatar of einstein99

I have deduced scientifically that e5 is the best opening!!

Avatar of Phelon

Technically c6 is the best opening

Avatar of jlin8852

I find that e4 openings tend to be more "intuitive" - if I follow basic opening principles I usually won't bomb the opening and I end up playing the main line openings anyway. On the other hand I find that even when I play against d4 openings (since I generally don't start with d4), a move which seems to be solid often comes back and bite me in the @$$. So I just play e4, follow basic opening principles, and 99% of the time I come out of the opening in good shape for the middlegame.

Avatar of einstein99

Ekoorbe wrote:

I find that e4 openings tend to be more "intuitive" - if I follow basic opening principles I usually won't bomb the opening and I end up playing the main line openings anyway. On the other hand I find that even when I play against d4 openings (since I generally don't start with d4), a move which seems to be solid often comes back and bite me in the @$$. So I just play e4, follow basic opening principles, and 99% of the time I come out of the opening in good shape for the middlegame.

Avatar of einstein99

Sorry about that Ekoorbe, I might be able to do astrophysicists, but havnt figured this thing out yet

Avatar of Soccersoccer

suckage wrote:

C4 never fails me

I think it never fails if you want an explosive opening.

Avatar of thanbi

i will choose e4

Avatar of sammynouri

How about whichever one you know more theory with?

Avatar of sammynouri
Soccersoccer wrote:

suckage wrote:

C4 never fails me

 

I think it never fails if you want an explosive opening.

If c4 never fails why aren't you a super-GM yet?