Easier to beat 1100 than 600?

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DonThe2nd

There has been a strange phenomenon lately where it seems I have more success against players who are 1000 - 1100 than those in the 600 - 700 neighborhood. I don't think I was playing any better or worse in these games, the lower rated players simply seemed to be stronger and I can't explain it. I know luck is always a factor in lower elo contests, but this seems to have been happening a lot lately. Now I am wishing I could get back over 1000 so I can be paired with some easier opponents, I am not kidding. Any ideas?

justbefair
DonThe2nd wrote:

There has been a strange phenomenon lately where it seems I have more success against players who are 1000 - 1100 than those in the 600 - 700 neighborhood. I don't think I was playing any better or worse in these games, the lower rated players simply seemed to be stronger and I can't explain it. I know luck is always a factor in lower elo contests, but this seems to have been happening a lot lately. Now I am wishing I could get back over 1000 so I can be paired with some easier opponents, I am not kidding. Any ideas?

I think that you are mistaken.

But at least if you want to make a claim asserting something like that, you should post examples of games were you were crushed by 600's and games where you beat some 1100's..

You are rated around 900 in rapid. You would be expected to beat most 600 to 700's and lose to most 1000 to 1100's.

I looked briefly through your archive and saw one recent loss to a player rated 630 and one recent victory against an 1100. However, those games came amidst many others where the wins and losses followed the expected path.

quierom

When I play In tournament, on average this person play very strong, very suspicious

basixTheSwexiest
Just admit you played badly that game and move on.
ChessMasteryOfficial

Lower-rated players often make unpredictable and unorthodox moves. This unpredictability can make it harder to anticipate their actions, leading to unexpected blunders or traps.

BigChessplayer665

Yup beginners are more random then non beginners

Ex an expert might overthink things and follow a system while a beginner does not so a beginner could occasionally get lucky just because they were playing randomly (not adviced to do this )

stumpd11
I found I had to forget about theory and just go for the fundamentals in the sub 500 range because the play was so erratic it was tilting me
xor_eax_eax05

Yes we are better and stuck at 800/900 elo. But some of us truly are around 1700 elo in strength.

BigChessplayer665
xor_eax_eax05 wrote:

Yes we are better and stuck at 800/900 elo. But some of us truly are around 1700 elo in strength.

No your still 800 .... Just because a 1200 overthinks more than you and might blunder does not mean they are worse than you

xor_eax_eax05
BigChessplayer665 wrote:

Yup beginners are more random then non beginners

Ex an expert might overthink things and follow a system while a beginner does not so a beginner could occasionally get lucky just because they were playing randomly (not adviced to do this )

Lol "random". True, when a 800 elo plays 20, 30, 40 moves with barely 2 or 3 inaccuracies and no mistakes nor blunders, yes, it's because he randomly moved the pieces and he happened to avoid making any mistakes "just by chance".

These players are not 800 elo and there's nothing you can say to convince me. I've been at 1700/1800 strength in DAILY chess for years, a time control in which many of my opponents in that range are already using databases to play me, and these 800 elos are as strong or even stronger than them.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/111200431239?tab=review

700 elo IMMEDIATELY spots a chance to rip my kingside apart and open it up, all while maintaining an eval bar at around 0.0 for like 20 moves - barely 1 inaccuracy and 1 mistake on each side. Like, I dont even want to play these kind of games. I resign straightaway. Amazingly underrated players. 700 elo should barely know how to move the pieces.

Go pick any opponent in the 1500s range via the "custom" tab rather than clicking on "play", and they are infinitely easier.

BigChessplayer665
 xor_eax_eax05 wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:

Yup beginners are more random then non beginners

Ex an expert might overthink things and follow a system while a beginner does not so a beginner could occasionally get lucky just because they were playing randomly (not adviced to do this )

Lol "random". True, when a 800 elo plays 20, 30, 40 moves with barely 2 or 3 inaccuracies and no mistakes nor blunders, yes, it's because he randomly moved the pieces and he happened to avoid making any mistakes "just by chance".no sometimes they think 

These players are not 800 elo and there's nothing you can say to convince me. I've been at 1700/1800 strength in DAILY chess for years, a time control in which many of my opponents in that range are already using databases to play me, and these 800 elos are as strong or even stronger than them.1700-1800 daily is not 1700 rapid those are two completely different games to be clear 1700-1800 daily is more like 1000 anyone can play like a 2000 given enough time to think 

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/111200431239?tab=review

700 elo IMMEDIATELY spots a chance to rip my kingside apart and open it up,yes 800s like to attack they also like to give free peices  all while maintaining an eval bar at around 0.0 for like 20 moves - barely 1 inaccuracy and 1 mistake on each side. Like, I dont even want to play these kind of games. I resign straightaway. Amazingly underrated players. 700 elo should barely know how to move the pieces.some are underrated others are overrated hey all try to win (or lose ) 

Go pick any opponent in the 1500s range via the "custom" tab rather than clicking on "play", and they are infinitely easier.yes because there is a larger pool in "play" instead of "customs" 

If your 1700 then get to 1700 if you don't get you are not 1700

800d can still think you know lol 

xor_eax_eax05

1800 Daily is like 1000 elo? Lol that must be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in months. At 1800 daily there already are plenty of FIDE rated players around that same strength. Just to give you an idea the highest rated player on the side at Daily is 2600 and there are 3 titled players in the 4 top places, including 2 GMs.

Keep telling me then how Daily strength is equivalent of 800 points lower elo in rapid. So the GM at 2500 Daily is in reality around 1700 rapid? A GM? OK dude, whatever you say, lol.

Look another 800 elo match where there's not a single inaccuracy in the first 26 moves:

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/107585580970?tab=review

Must have been very random moves and get all of them correctly. Maybe we should play a lottery.

Criminally underrated players because, true, the pool is larger. Which makes OP complaint legitimate.

BigChessplayer665
 xor_eax_eax05 wrote:

1800 Daily is like 1000 elo? Lol that must be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in months. At 1800 daily there already are plenty of FIDE rated players around that same strength. Just to give you an idea the highest rated player on the side at Daily is 2600 and there are 3 titled players in the 4 top places, including 2 GMs.yes some daily players are 2000 fida and 1800 daily but daily is way to random to be a legitimate test of strength in chess cause there are also 1000 elo players that are 1800 daily 

Keep telling me then how Daily strength is equivalent of 800 points lower elo in rapid. So the GM at 2500 Daily is in reality around 1700 rapid? A GM? OK dude, whatever you say, lol.no it depends on the person 

If your 1900 daily and 1000 rapid then your 1000 rapid strength and 1800 in daily 

Look another 800 elo match where there's not a single inaccuracy in the first 26 moves:

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/107585580970?tab=review

Must have been very random moves and get all of them correctly. Maybe we should play a lottery.

Criminally underrated players because, true, the pool is larger. Which makes OP complaint legitimate.

depends on the person ... Yes 800s are terrible but they can occasionally play good chess even if most of the time it's dumb chess 

BigChessplayer665

Sure so 6 inaccuracies is not a mistake also that game was pretty to play since the plans of the position are easy to understand they still played around 800 elo

xor_eax_eax05

I said up to move 26. Of course it blundered the exchange with the pin later. But 26 moves with no inaccuracies. Only minor centipawn losses which did not make it into inaccuracies and went into the "good" move category.

Extremely underrated player.

BigChessplayer665

Nah not in my opinion the way they collapsed at the end was around 800-1200 elo level maybe a tiny bit underrated but not by much

DonThe2nd
basixTheSwexiest wrote:
Just admit you played badly that game and move on.

I know I played badly in that game, I never said I didn't. It just seems that lower rated players punish me more quickly when I make a mistake.

I have looked over my history some more and I probably just hit an erratic streak, overall the higher elo players play better on average, with the occasional blunder of course.