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Chess.com has been around for some time now, and I appreciate the fact that the owner and his helpers have made some remarkable ripples in the world of online chess.

But, WHY on earth does live chess suck so hard??? Is it not a priority? Is it so hard to accomplish a stable reliable live chess experience?

 

Some fairly small poker sites seem to be getting the live experience spot on, why can't chess.com?

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i really don't know i think they ought to have a better scoring system or something extra i fell it's a big let down

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Remember that the Live Chess is still in beta mode, which means it's not the 'complete article' yet.  Cool

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AMcHarg wrote:

Remember that the Live Chess is still in beta mode, which means it's not the 'complete article' yet. 


And it has been so for a long while. When will that status change?

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When they finish it. Simple.

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it is as if they have given up with it

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chuzzlechamp wrote:

it is as if they have given up with it


yip....

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If you've had even a tiny bit of programming experience, you would know it would be hard to make a STABLE, online, and safe Live Chess system that could handle hundreds of people playing at one time.

It's a lot harder than you would think.

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it's a great question... and the answer is that we underestimated the difficulties, went down a wrong path, tried to make it work instead of starting over, and ended up spinning wheels. we recently started over :) more coming in the next 6 weeks...

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Raibutai wrote:

If you've had even a tiny bit of programming experience, you would know it would be hard to make a STABLE, online, and safe Live Chess system that could handle hundreds of people playing at one time.

It's a lot harder than you would think.


Sure but I know of plenty "small" poker sites handling lots of players simulateously, why can't chess.com???

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Hi guys,

Chess.com knows their 'live chess' is weak/flawed.  They tell us weekly that they are working on it.  This is the best chess site on the internet now.  I firmly believe they will 'fix' their 'live chess' and we will all be happy with it when they do.  Let's be patient.

Watch your backrank.

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erik wrote:

it's a great question... and the answer is that we underestimated the difficulties, went down a wrong path, tried to make it work instead of starting over, and ended up spinning wheels. we recently started over :) more coming in the next 6 weeks...


Once you get this right, you can expect some of my currency...

 

Looking forward.

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0-0 wrote:
Raibutai wrote:

If you've had even a tiny bit of programming experience, you would know it would be hard to make a STABLE, online, and safe Live Chess system that could handle hundreds of people playing at one time.

It's a lot harder than you would think.


Sure but I know of plenty "small" poker sites handling lots of players simulateously, why can't chess.com???


Many of those 'small' poker sites are actually rebranded affiliates of one of a few very large online gambling companies that have a great deal of money and many developers to throw at the problem. Having worked in that industry and still working as a developer, I can tell you that it is easy to do a poor job that doesn't scale well and difficult to do a stable, scalable solution.

As Eric wrote above, they obviously made an architectural mistake and sometimes those are very hard to back out of without restarting from scratch.

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I agree that we will be very satisfied when it is finished.  Changes that will benefit all take time and they are probably not going to do small updates but rather one or two big changes and then tweek it as needed after that.  Just guessing though.

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0-0 wrote:

 

Some fairly small poker sites seem to be getting the live experience spot on, why can't chess.com?


They're certainly more stable, but as someone pointed out it's just different skins bascially. BUT, in my opinion, they're are no where close to getting the live experience.

I'd even go as far as to say that live chess on chess.com is closer to the OTB experience allthough it's still a beta.

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Why don't you guys create an 'offline' program instead of an online one?  Just a suggestion as such software is faster and more stable than online versions, and can include more features too.

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JokernTP wrote:
0-0 wrote:

 

Some fairly small poker sites seem to be getting the live experience spot on, why can't chess.com?


They're certainly more stable, but as someone pointed out it's just different skins bascially. BUT, in my opinion, they're are no where close to getting the live experience.

I'd even go as far as to say that live chess on chess.com is closer to the OTB experience allthough it's still a beta.


OK dude I followed you up until the last statement. My recommendation: Time to drop the acid (LSD). Get a grip man!!!

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I have a suggestion! Eric buy Chessbase and takes over playchess! Laughing

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mschosting wrote:

I have a suggestion! Eric buy Chessbase and takes over playchess!


Does that work well?

Besides Erik already bought the domain "Chess.com" for 17 billion dollars (Zim$ that might be) his cash is limited....

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0-0 wrote:
mschosting wrote:

I have a suggestion! Eric buy Chessbase and takes over playchess!


Does that work well?

Besides Erik already bought the domain "Chess.com" for 17 billion dollars (Zim$ that might be) his cash is limited....


 No it also sucks just less then "live" come on 17B only? thats pennys get real! This is real mens business!