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GMLoveJr

I dont care who you are or what your rating is, if you dont accept and play challenges from any and all people then you havent truly earned your rating!! That means if you are rated 1737 and you don't accept and play a challenge or challenges from people 200 points or more below you then you are not truly a 1737! The whole idea of having a rating is to show where you sit accurately on a scale of ALL chess players in the entire world not who you choose to play. Now i know your scared to lose 14 or 15 points if you lose but if you are scared to lose a game in the first place then you need to get better plain and simple. And i also know most of you out there who decline challenges from extremely lower people dont want to play them because they make severely stupid openning moves and its very frustrating but if you cant defeat that then you are not a true "good" chess player. Furthermore, my "True" rating in Bullet is 1300 and Blitz is 1311 so dont think this is coming from someone who's rating is 500. Man up or Woman up and play Chess! Stop being scared chess players and play! If you went to a tournament right now and someone was matched against you with no rating or title and in all realness would only be 900 or something you couldnt just choose not to play them you would have to and would probably take a loss because you are not truly as high as you purport yourself to be. There are a whole lot of people out there rated 100-300 points higher then they really should be!

Wou_Rem

The point of a site like this is that you can play whoever you want to play.
Those players can't dodge lower rated players in tournaments.

heinzie

For higher-rated players there's no real point in playing games with you. Practice against other 1400s and 1500s first.

GMLoveJr

Well said Wouter.

Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

The point of a site like this is that you can play whoever you want to play.
Those players can't dodge lower rated players in tournaments.


GMLoveJr
heinzie wrote:

For higher-rated players there's no real point in playing games with you. Practice against other 1400s and 1500s first.


 

Would you like to play me Heinzie so you can see that there is a point? If not then you can keep your mouth shut.

kingspasski

100 TO 150  below my rating and any rating above mine is what i choose to play. is this ok? what about if someone only plays people over 1800 or perhaps 2000 rating and their own rating is over those does that signify a true rating?

TheOldReb
GMLoveJr wrote:

I dont care who you are or what your rating is, if you dont accept and play challenges from any and all people then you havent truly earned your rating!! That means if you are rated 1737 and you don't accept and play a challenge or challenges from people 200 points or more below you then you are not truly a 1737! The whole idea of having a rating is to show where you sit accurately on a scale of ALL chess players in the entire world not who you choose to play. Now i know your scared to lose 14 or 15 points if you lose but if you are scared to lose a game in the first place then you need to get better plain and simple. And i also know most of you out there who decline challenges from extremely lower people dont want to play them because they make severely stupid openning moves and its very frustrating but if you cant defeat that then you are not a true "good" chess player. Furthermore, my "True" rating in Bullet is 1300 and Blitz is 1311 so dont think this is coming from someone who's rating is 500. Man up or Woman up and play Chess! Stop being scared chess players and play! If you went to a tournament right now and someone was matched against you with no rating or title and in all realness would only be 900 or something you couldnt just choose not to play them you would have to and would probably take a loss because you are not truly as high as you purport yourself to be. There are a whole lot of people out there rated 100-300 points higher then they really should be!


PrawnEatsPrawn
GMLoveJr wrote:
heinzie wrote:

For higher-rated players there's no real point in playing games with you. Practice against other 1400s and 1500s first.


 

Would you like to play me Heinzie so you can see that there is a point? If not then you can keep your mouth shut.


 

Easy Tiger! you devalue your own argument with gutter talk like this.

GeordiLaForge

I refuse to play people with fake titles (GMLoveJr) in their user names.

GMLoveJr
kingspasski wrote:

100 TO 150  below my rating and any rating above mine is what i choose to play. is this ok? what about if someone only plays people over 1800 or perhaps 2000 rating and their own rating is over those does that signify a true rating?


Like i said. Any and all challenges. Declining challenges from people severely over and severely under your "rating" doesnt give you a true rating.

GMLoveJr
Reb wrote:
GMLoveJr wrote:

I dont care who you are or what your rating is, if you dont accept and play challenges from any and all people then you havent truly earned your rating!! That means if you are rated 1737 and you don't accept and play a challenge or challenges from people 200 points or more below you then you are not truly a 1737! The whole idea of having a rating is to show where you sit accurately on a scale of ALL chess players in the entire world not who you choose to play. Now i know your scared to lose 14 or 15 points if you lose but if you are scared to lose a game in the first place then you need to get better plain and simple. And i also know most of you out there who decline challenges from extremely lower people dont want to play them because they make severely stupid openning moves and its very frustrating but if you cant defeat that then you are not a true "good" chess player. Furthermore, my "True" rating in Bullet is 1300 and Blitz is 1311 so dont think this is coming from someone who's rating is 500. Man up or Woman up and play Chess! Stop being scared chess players and play! If you went to a tournament right now and someone was matched against you with no rating or title and in all realness would only be 900 or something you couldnt just choose not to play them you would have to and would probably take a loss because you are not truly as high as you purport yourself to be. There are a whole lot of people out there rated 100-300 points higher then they really should be!


 


 Meaning?

GMLoveJr
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
GMLoveJr wrote:
heinzie wrote:

For higher-rated players there's no real point in playing games with you. Practice against other 1400s and 1500s first.


 

Would you like to play me Heinzie so you can see that there is a point? If not then you can keep your mouth shut.


 

Easy Tiger! you devalue your own argument with gutter talk like this.


Not gutter talk at all im simply challenging someone who feels like playing me would be some kind of easy victory or the quickest checkmate they have ever given someone. Im challenging him so he can see that there would be a point to playing me and that he would learn something from our game. I was actually offended by his previous statement. Especially seeing as he doesnt know me and has never played me. Thats why i told him he could either play little old me or shut his mouth.

GMLoveJr
GeordiLaForge wrote:

I refuse to play people with fake titles (GMLoveJr) in their user names.


 Fake titles huh? How do you know that i am not already a GM?

GeordiLaForge
GMLoveJr wrote:
GeordiLaForge wrote:

I refuse to play people with fake titles (GMLoveJr) in their user names.


 Fake titles huh? How do you know that i am not already a GM?


You are not a GM.

GMLoveJr
GeordiLaForge wrote:
GMLoveJr wrote:
GeordiLaForge wrote:

I refuse to play people with fake titles (GMLoveJr) in their user names.


 Fake titles huh? How do you know that i am not already a GM?


You are not a GM.


 How do you know? You have never seen any proof showing that i am or that i am not so how can you say?

Frecky

Honestly, there is very little point in playing people who are way above/below your rating. I'd say + or - 200 points is a rather comfortable bracket. To take an extreme example, GMLoveJr, do you really think that if you challenged GMOnischuk to a blitz game and he declined, that would be unreasonable? If not, then it all becomes a matter of how large you think the bracket of ratings you play should be. And that is simply a matter of personal preference.

Your argument that people earn fake ratings this way is actually not quite accurate. It is much harder to gain a high rating when playing people around your skill level or slightly above than it is playing people rated 150-200 points lower.

CerebralAssassin

because...peeps here don't want easy wins against peeps 200+ points under them...they want tight games...hence why they play peeps near their rating

SimonSeirup
GMLoveJr wrote:

The whole idea of having a rating is to show where you sit accurately on a scale of ALL chess players in the entire world not who you choose to play.


Well, as I se it the whole idea of having a rating, is to play someone rated the same, and when you play someone at your same level, its more enjoyable :)

Why would I play someone rated 200 or someone rated 3000? Whats the fun og completely crushing or being completely crushed?

whirlwind2011

@OP: I partially agree with you. Some players like to nurture their rating by being carefully selective with their opponents, so that they are likely to gain only the maximum possible points. My own philosophy in choosing opponents is accepting any and all challenges... mostly.

That might sound contradictory. But I like the idea of establishing a range of ratings that I will agree to play. If I am rated 2000, then I will accept challenges from any opponent within, say, the range 1700-2300. I should be able to beat anyone rated below me (in theory), and I should be practicing against anyone rated above me. However, I will not accept challenges from 1250-rated players, or a 2641-rated player, because none of us will benefit from that game.

Just for information: Reb was telling you "Hogwash!"

Also, if you are in fact a GM, then you should go into your Account Settings and go to Edit Profile Info, where you can notify Chess.com of your title. Unless/until you do this, nobody will believe that you are grandmaster.

GMLoveJr
Frecky wrote:

Honestly, there is very little point in playing people who are way above/below your rating. I'd say + or - 200 points is a rather comfortable bracket. To take an extreme example, GMLoveJr, do you really think that if you challenged GMOnischuk to a blitz game and he declined, that would be unreasonable? If not, then it all becomes a matter of how large you think the bracket of ratings you play should be. And that is simply a matter of personal preference.

Your argument that people earn fake ratings this way is actually not quite accurate. It is much harder to gain a high rating when playing people around your skill level or slightly above than it is playing people rated 150-200 points lower.


 I definitely understand what you mean with what you're saying, however all im simply saying is that if you have a rating of whatever there should be no problem playing people significantly lower than you because you should win. If you simply dont play them due to you being certain that you will win then thats one thing but to not play them out of fear of losing is ridiculous. And even if you feel certain you will win doesnt mean that you will. I believe declining challenges based off of ratings is nonsense. And yes, i do believe that whoever you mentioned if they declined to play me would be unreasonable. Play chess. Doesnt mater who it is against. Play chess. No game is a waste of time. If you play a game to 11 moves and checkmate someone because you knew that variation all the way to checkmate it still is not wasted because that is only keeping you sharp. Every game played keeps you sharp and ensures that you dont get rusty. I appreciate the few NMs, IMs, CMs and FMs i have played who played me back when i was rated 800s and 900s and didnt let a rating stop them from playing someone in chess. So i believe if an FM who is rated 2380 can play me when i was rated 975 then anyone can play anyone. And in the future when i earn my title just like how i do now i will play any and everybody who challenges me to a game and if i suffer a loss then i suffer a loss but at least i will take something away from that game and it will make me a stronger chess player.