The shortest game in history - Guiness record

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Hochdeutscher wrote:

This game looks very staged. The move h3 makes absolutely no sense because the pawn on e5 was attacked. But manipulation was very common in chess already at this time. How good old masters are can you see when you study Greco or McDonnell and LaBourdonnais. These guys were far before Morphy and if they would reborn today they would get the master title very quickly. Well it least if its not staged. And they are allowed to get the title.

I think his idea was if nxe5 then e4 and you are doing well.

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shru hat geschrieben:
Hochdeutscher wrote:

This game looks very staged. The move h3 makes absolutely no sense because the pawn on e5 was attacked. But manipulation was very common in chess already at this time. How good old masters are can you see when you study Greco or McDonnell and LaBourdonnais. These guys were far before Morphy and if they would reborn today they would get the master title very quickly. Well it least if its not staged. And they are allowed to get the title.

I think his idea was if nxe5 then e4 and you are doing well.

No "his" idea was lets make a staged game so we can play a nice game that will remembered.

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Wait isn't the shortest game the game that ends before it starts, with 0 moves?

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In Paris.

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Chessking-134 wrote:

Wait isn't the shortest game the game that ends before it starts, with 0 moves?

No. An actual game must include at least one move. If there are zero moves how would it be a game? The shortest game between two grandmasters was the Carlsen game mentioned a while back. It was one or two moves.

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lfPatriotGames wrote:
Chessking-134 wrote:

Wait isn't the shortest game the game that ends before it starts, with 0 moves?

No. An actual game must include at least one move. If there are zero moves how would it be a game? The shortest game between two grandmasters was the Carlsen game mentioned a while back. It was one or two moves.

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obelix101 wrote:

This is a rough translation from a norwegian Guinness book of Records, from 1968:

The shortest game ever registered between two grand masters, was in four moves. Lazard defeated Gibaud in a chess cafè in Paris in 1924.

In my hand I have a copy of "1000 short games of Chess" by IRVING CHERNEV

Published in 1955 Simon & Schuster New York, N. Y.

The very first game is listed as shown in the book . . .

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This is the short game ever played between MASTERS in tournament competition. 

It ends in a knockout in four moves . . .

Paris, 1924

GIBAUD. WHITE. LAZARD. BLACK

1 P-Q4. KT-KB3

2. KT-Q2. P-K4

3 Px P. KT-KT5

4. P-KR3 KT-K6

Instead of retreating the Knight hurls himself into the enemy camp with an attack on the Queen. 

White resigns , as capturing the Knight would be answered by 5 . . . Q-R5ch, forcing mate.

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Chernev wrote on March 13, 1954 when he wrote the book . . .

 "It is my hope that they will give you the pleasure they have given me."

 I purchased this book from Thrifty books on line . . .

In the years that this game was played there was no internet or computers.

I tried contacting to correct the game but it was not possible.

The title of this post is wrong!

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Gibaud said that this game never occurred.

See https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/gibaudlazard.html

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what kind of a game is THIS

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Weird. This info has a few layers that could be better analyzed.