Faking a LOW rating to win !!

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slimcheffy
owltuna wrote:

I should repeat this bit, in case it got lost in the shuffle:

"The point is, if Black were a good player faking a low rating, no way would he play the terrible 27...Rxa7?? giving White an easy, easy win."

He was very good, so good infact that he knew he had to make a few poor moves, knowing full well that he could still win the game.

slimcheffy
umirin1991 wrote:

hey OP, pretty sure i was touching 1800 blitz a couple weeks ago, and then i plummeted to 1400 blitz. and now im almost 1600 again.

 

its internet blitz, have some fun and try openings you dont play OTB and learn some new positions.

You are right and I do that all the time in internet blitz. I guess what irked me here , besides the fact that this person was faking a low rating, is the fact that it was a tournament. Other than that I totally agree with you, have some fun, loosen it up !!

vkappag

he wasnt faking a low rating,

you played terribly

admit it

move on

thats the point of 5 minute games

and its an internet tournament... WHO CARES?

my troll radar is starting to act up...

FrozenBeast

Slim, I looked at your profile and it seems that you've won against a 1658 elo player, by your logic you must have been cheating.

BoubonBishop

Occum's razor says you played below your rating or he is under rated.

kleelof

One look at your opponents game history shows your accusation is silly.

You would probably do better to spend your time reviewing your game and making improvements rather than looking for some far out way to explain why you lost.

slimcheffy
FrozenBeast wrote:

Slim, I looked at your profile and it seems that you've won against a 1658 elo player, by your logic you must have been cheating.

haha good point !! no I was not cheating, I think he just had a bad game lol

slimcheffy
kleelof wrote:

One look at your opponents game history shows your accusation is silly.

You would probably do better to spend your time reviewing your game and making improvements rather than looking for some far out way to explain why you lost.

fair enough but consider this, I have LOST over 2500 games in blitz. Do you really think my radar could be that far off ?

FrozenBeast
slimcheffy wrote:
FrozenBeast wrote:

Slim, I looked at your profile and it seems that you've won against a 1658 elo player, by your logic you must have been cheating.

haha good point !! no I was not cheating, I think he just had a bad game lol

Could that reason also be applied to this particular situation?

slimcheffy
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
tooTal4Euwe wrote:

Occum's razor says you played below your rating or he is under rated.

I was wondering when this would come up. but fyi if Occum's razor is speaking to you, you might habe bigger problems.

what on earth is occums razor ???

slimcheffy
FrozenBeast wrote:
slimcheffy wrote:
FrozenBeast wrote:

Slim, I looked at your profile and it seems that you've won against a 1658 elo player, by your logic you must have been cheating.

haha good point !! no I was not cheating, I think he just had a bad game lol

Could that reason also be applied to this particular situation?

Ok Ok !! lol I get it and I see your point. It may not seem logical from the outside but.... I still think something fishy was going on here. My bad play was not fishy, I do that all the time ! Some days I just can't play at all. 

On the other hand, 99 times out of 100 i will best someone rated in that range, hence my spidey senses going off !!

leiph18
slimcheffy wrote:
kleelof wrote:

One look at your opponents game history shows your accusation is silly.

You would probably do better to spend your time reviewing your game and making improvements rather than looking for some far out way to explain why you lost.

fair enough but consider this, I have LOST over 2500 games in blitz. Do you really think my radar could be that far off ?

You were 100% winning the game. Then he caught you with a fork that won a rook and a bishop.

Then later he wins your queen.

All I see is that he got lucky that you missed two tactics, and that both tactics won a ton of material. I don't really see how he was playing so much higher than his rating.

kleelof
slimcheffy wrote:
kleelof wrote:

One look at your opponents game history shows your accusation is silly.

You would probably do better to spend your time reviewing your game and making improvements rather than looking for some far out way to explain why you lost.

fair enough but consider this, I have LOST over 2500 games in blitz. Do you really think my radar could be that far off ?

Not sure how losing so many games would qualify ones ability to spot a sandbagger.

kleelof

It's good to see you are sensible enough to consider perhaps it was you, not him, before we have reached the 4th page. Laughing

slimcheffy
leiph18 wrote:
slimcheffy wrote:
kleelof wrote:

One look at your opponents game history shows your accusation is silly.

You would probably do better to spend your time reviewing your game and making improvements rather than looking for some far out way to explain why you lost.

fair enough but consider this, I have LOST over 2500 games in blitz. Do you really think my radar could be that far off ?

You were 100% winning the game. Then he caught you with a fork that won a rook and a bishop.

Then later he wins your queen.

All I see is that he got lucky that you missed two tactics, and that both tactics won a ton of material. I don't really see how he was playing so much higher than his rating.

you may be right, i was winning, and then....the wheels came flying off lol. 

slimcheffy
kleelof wrote:

It's good to see you are sensible enough to consider perhaps it was you, not him, before we have reached the 4th page. 

thank you ! ...I think ? lol

kleelof

We've all seen plenty of these types of threads go completely bad with the OP resorting to calling people names and completely denying they might be wrong.

Sacredwater
slimcheffy wrote:
hayabusahayate16 wrote:

you just suck. same as me. don't trip.

Is there anyone with intelligence that would like to comment ?

While a word in this post was perhaps rather strong, the commenter recognized the same quality in his or her self.  The final two words are good advice in general.  Fast games often lead to blunders and one loss can lead to five in a row.  Fun to play, who cares about the numbers...

slimcheffy

Yes maybe I was a bit hasty surmising this poor fellow was faking a low rating. However if you go to his homepage you will in fact see that I am not the first to accuse him of this very thing.

slimcheffy
LuftWaffles wrote:

Rating upsets are a lot more common than you seem to think slimcheffy. It happens even above 2000, and ratings are a lot more volatile at your level.

Thank you, I appreciate your comments and agree with what you say. However I still do believe that Faking a low rating to win is in fact a problem on this site. I have encountered it before and in fact I am surprised that there isnt more discussion surrounding this issue .