Faking a LOW rating to win !!

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kleelof

Oh, I just realized there is a possible reward for doing this; medals. You get medals when you win or place in tournaments right?

Can you hang digital medals on your wall?

slimcheffy
NATHANKRISHNA wrote:

yes similiar experiences..one player of my own team fm 1846 he dropped

to 1200plus in 10 days.another an opponent of me in another game fm 1843 to 1100 plus in 15 days..these are facts physically experienced by me...last week I had a player who was 1340 and I was 1650 when playing against him.surprised me in the first game (in a closed position without chances of penetration into the enemy lines selecting a convenient diagonal approach with Queen stealthily and creating havoc .this is 4th time it had happened to me and all 4 times I had lost ..only once I could realise it before it happened.but they were all above 1700rating and hence i thought it justified but fm a 1340 i didn't expect this.)In the 2nd game also he surprised me with his accurate play of defence and attack but i was more prepared this time around and won the second game but

with difficulty..all matches were team matches..

thank you. I am not the only one who has experienced this.

slimcheffy
kleelof wrote:

Oh, I just realized there is a possible reward for doing this; medals. You get medals when you win or place in tournaments right?

Can you hang digital medals on your wall?

can you hang pride on your wall ? Just because you cannot hang it on your wall does not mean it has no value. seriously, if your going to try and stir the pot at least bring a decent sized spoon.

leiph18

Nice troll lol.

kleelof

Really guys, some advice: Stop trying to look to your opponents 'trickery' as the cause for your loss. Better than you or not, you lost because of your own mistakes. This is the reason ANYONE loses a game of chess.

You would be much better of spending that energy on improving your own game. If you have indeed loss to a stronger player, they have done you a great favor; they've given you a game you can learn from.

kleelof
slimcheffy wrote:
kleelof wrote:

Oh, I just realized there is a possible reward for doing this; medals. You get medals when you win or place in tournaments right?

Can you hang digital medals on your wall?

can you hang pride on your wall ? Just because you cannot hang it on your wall does not mean it has no value. seriously, if your going to try and stir the pot at least bring a decent sized spoon.

I'm not trying to stir anything. You asked earlier why someone might want to sandbag, and I'm giving a reason. Lame or not, it is still a reason.

ANd trust me, my spoon is plenty big. Laughing

slimcheffy
kleelof wrote:

Really guys, some advice: Stop trying to look to your opponents 'trickery' as the cause for your loss. Better than you or not, you lost because of your own mistakes. This is the reason ANYONE loses a game of chess.

You would be much better of spending that energy on improving your own game. If you have indeed loss to a stronger player, they have done you a great favor; they've given you a game you can learn from.

cue the violins ....

kleelof
slimcheffy wrote:
kleelof wrote:

Really guys, some advice: Stop trying to look to your opponents 'trickery' as the cause for your loss. Better than you or not, you lost because of your own mistakes. This is the reason ANYONE loses a game of chess.

You would be much better of spending that energy on improving your own game. If you have indeed loss to a stronger player, they have done you a great favor; they've given you a game you can learn from.

cue the violins ....

Whatever. I was the only one on here who was willing to give you a benefit of a doubt instead of ragging on you and now you seem to want to be an ass.

Perhaps the others were right afterall.

slimcheffy
kleelof wrote:
slimcheffy wrote:
kleelof wrote:

Really guys, some advice: Stop trying to look to your opponents 'trickery' as the cause for your loss. Better than you or not, you lost because of your own mistakes. This is the reason ANYONE loses a game of chess.

You would be much better of spending that energy on improving your own game. If you have indeed loss to a stronger player, they have done you a great favor; they've given you a game you can learn from.

cue the violins ....

Whatever. I was the only one on here who was willing to give you a benefit of a doubt instead of ragging on you and now you seem to want to be an ass.

Perhaps the others were right afterall.

haha Kleelof, you are taking this far too serious. Its too bad you have lost your sense of humor... and thanks for the insult btw. 

kleelof

Anytime.

KillTheHorsie
kleelof wrote:

Oh, I just realized there is a possible reward for doing this; medals. You get medals when you win or place in tournaments right?

Can you hang digital medals on your wall?

No.  If they are digital they go on your fingers, or on your toes.

slimcheffy

are you mad at me Kleelof ? or mad at yourself for bringing it down to the lowbrow level of insults ? Quite frankly I am surprised you went there so easily ... lol

kleelof
slimcheffy wrote:

are you mad at me Kleelof ? or mad at yourself for bringing it down to the lowbrow level of insults ? Quite frankly I am surprised you went there so easily ... lol

Well, 2 messages in a row you made seemed a bit negative. And, as one who is more than happy to up the stakes....

And, if you are AT ALL familiar with me and how I deal with REAL jerks who sometimes surface in these forums, you will know that being called an ass by me is hardly an insult. Laughing

t-ram87

Dont compare difference with 900 to 1200 vs 1200 to 1400, latter is ten times bigger difference. You can understand this by comparing an average gm with any (ex) world champion.

At beginner level (<1500) can most of players win 200-300 ratings easily in a years work, but Rowson has said in his book that in his 10 years previous book he set up his goal to win 100 point in 10 years but he failed it.

Since chess.com blitz ratings doesnt show your real rating. And most beginners just spend all of their time solving tactics and playing, the games were decided on the fact that who spotted the tactic and who missed. Well i looked at your game i admit he played better than you that game, but not because he is underrated player. He tried to fight for iniatiative (very amateurly) but you didnt castle and went after material. I believe anyone can think about winning material and if you thought that would make you 300 points better player than your opponent you were wrong, you have prove you are better every game you play, not that he has to prove he is worse. You need to be playing prophilacticly and sound. Did you obey principles ? No. Did you ever think about what your opponent wants to do ? No. Then why you believe you deserved winning ?

flatters1

On  something of a tangent, I was struck by the comments about learning from our losses. (Kleelof)  On surface it seems so relevant and obvious, but I wonder how a couple of you analyse your own game losses...eg. do you set  up a 3d board and set or use the software on your laptops...  take notes, keep a binder of games, sort mistakes by types...? Probably as many approaches as there are players.  Anybody want to mention how they face self analysis?

kleelof
flatters1 wrote:

On  something of a tangent, I was struck by the comments about learning from our losses. (Kleelof)  On surface it seems so relevant and obvious, but I wonder how a couple of you analyse your own game losses...eg. do you set  up a 3d board and set or use the software on your laptops...  take notes, keep a binder of games, sort mistakes by types...? Probably as many approaches as there are players.  Anybody want to mention how they face self analysis?

Here is a blog I wrote about my process:

http://www.chess.com/blog/kleelof/post-game-analysis---a-simple-approach

kleelof

NATHANKRISHNA

t-ram87... if the post was intended for me u have selected the wrong game.

the opponent was THOMAS  and not Doktor olego..both have similiar ratings..

kleelof

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I've used it for years for my programming work and never had any issues. ALso, with Allway, it is quite difficult to delete your data.

slimcheffy
owltuna wrote:
t-ram87 wrote:

... you have prove you are better every game you play, not that he has to prove he is worse...

That's sound advice. Opie's problem is he assumed he would win simply because of the rating difference, and played lazy. This lack of playing maturity is now amply reflected in a lack of social maturity in refusing to accept that he is mistaken in his accusation.

I predict Opie will never get any better at chess. Verdict, terminal beginner. Hopefully he will do better at life, but I won't take that bet.

Personal insulting me in my life ?

WOW. Thats pretty pessimistic and arrogant of you, and in case you missed it, which clearly you did, I agreed that maybe I was hasty to assume my opponent had faked a low rating to win.