FIDE World Championship - Magnus Carlsen vs Ian Nepomniactchi

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llama47

Really liking this so far. Both players fighting, no boring safe crap. Even position, but complex.

Probably wont be online again till the game is over, but good start (after move 13...Nd3)

Wits-end
Jenium wrote:
Wits-end wrote:
Jenium wrote:
Wits-end wrote:
Jenium wrote:
Wits-end wrote:

I have a hard time sitting in my recliner and concentrating. I cannot begin to imagine sitting on a stage knowing the cameras are rolling and people all over the world are debating my every move. For 4-6 hours. I can barely watch any event televised event for the very reason that i don’t give a hoot about what the talking heads babble on about. Game one appears to be headed for a draw in my extremely novice opinion. Is this what we really want to use to publicize chess?

It is not the main goal of the world championship to publicize chess.

Respectfully disagree with you on this point. if it isn’t to publicize the game, why do it? It could be played in any location or venue. Heck the game could be played in Magnus’s living room and the WCC would remain the WCC. 

I think I might have misunderstood "publicize" as English isn't my first language, and thought it implies something along the lines of "popularize". If it just means to make the games accessible to the public I don't disagree.

Whether we agree or disagree, i respect your opinion. And to be certain, if people want to watch the games and sponsors can pay the bills, then so be it, i wouldn’t take away from that. My point was simply that by making it a sizable event, FIDE is certainly trying to both popularize and publicize the game. And why not? I’d be disappointed if they did not do so. Here is my issue, once the event has been built up and we get viewers to tune in, they will most likely see a drawn event. To the more learned viewers this may well be exciting, but to the new viewers I’m afraid it is just a lost opportunity to make the game interesting and enticing. 

I hear you too. I agree that sponsors are necessary to pay the bills. So I am not against making the WC a fun event. And in fact, FIDE has already made a lot of changes to make the World Championship viewer friendly:

- They shortened the time control and reduced the number of games.

- No draw offers are allowed before move 30.

- They even included a rapid/blitz tie break, which is quite a radical change.

And in my opinion having 2 GMs talking about the games make them more accessible to the audience. I remember watching Kramnik-Kasparov on ICC when no audio was available, and it was way harder to follow. 

Where I disagree is that I don't think that there should be massive changes in the time control, the mode or in the game itself just to entertain the crowd. (FIDE tried that a while ago and implemented a KO system with a shortened time control. The result were champions who were not even in the top 10.) Chess, if played well, is a drawn game. So if the two best players play it is to be expected that most games end in a draw. It also takes longer as a football game, and the action isn't visible to the untrained eye. So I understand that for most people this isn't as exciting as football or basketball. But maybe the WC isn't just for everyone.

Well stated @Jenium. There is a lot of agreement for what you’ve said. I have the sense that if we were in the same room debating this, we wouldn’t be very far apart in reality. Good chat all around with you. Let’s look forward to a great game today! 

p1mpinpauly

really enjoy rooting for the Underdog, really hope this Russian IAN pulls it off, but then again Magnus is such a chill awesome guy from watching his streams, so how can we root against him.  its a glorious spectacle either way, hoping for some sacrificial masterpieces, show us peasants how its done! aha LETS GO!

p1mpinpauly

lets pray for some novel ingenuity, some bizarre out of this world alpha zero like 36 move calculation down the road 

ricorat
llama47 wrote:

Really liking this so far. Both players fighting, no boring safe crap. Even position, but complex.

Probably wont be online again till the game is over, but good start (after move 13...Nd3)

Despite the fact that yesterdays game was a draw, I enjoyed it as it was pretty complex. Todays game is looking exciting to!

Jenium

Yes, Nepos knights look scary...

NikkiLikeChikki

Guys, if you're missing it, there's a great game going on. Judit's commentary is fantastic and it's amazing all the things she's seeing that Giri isn't.

ricorat
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

Guys, if you're missing it, there's a great game going on. Judit's commentary is fantastic and it's amazing all the things she's seeing that Giri isn't.

That's quite impressive considering Judit is retired and Giri is still a very active player

Pulpofeira

She's better. And her English is easier for me, too.

NikkiLikeChikki

At one point Giri suggested a line and Judit just scowled and said "nooooo... you're kidding! and then just destroyed the line in seconds."

Then Giri is like "I'd be looking for the draw here" and Judit just looked disgusted. She's so awesome.

ricorat
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

At one point Giri suggested a line and Judit just scowled and said "nooooo... you're kidding! and then just destroyed the line in seconds."

Then Giri is like "I'd be looking for the draw here" and Judit just looked disgusted. She's so awesome.

Judit isn't they type of player to "play for a draw" which is nice to see in a super GM

nklristic

Hm, Nepo has the exchange, but Carlsen's knight seems pretty good and Nepo has more weak pawns. In any case, nobody can say that this was a boring game, whatever happens.

assassin3752

2nd game looks quite exciting and imbalanced

Stil1

The first game did not bode well for Nepo, IMO.

Nepo had white .... yet he was out of prep at move 14. Carlsen's 14...Rfb8 took him by surprise.

Carlsen was still fully in his prep, and didn't finally begin "thinking" on his own until Nepo played 17.Nf3.

Out of the two players, I would've expected Nepo to be more prepared, and Carlsen to trust more on his ability to figure things out over the board.

Apparently, the opposite happened in game 1: Carlsen came to this match more prepared than his opponent.

NikkiLikeChikki

The middle game was fireworks... it has petered out into a pretty dreary endgame, though. Sad.

nklristic

It seems Nepo is content to defend 1 pawn down endgame. It will probably be a draw...

assassin3752

im rooting for nepo in the current wwc. it should be a very close match tho, with lots of interesting clashes against the current world champion and the challenger wink.png

assassin3752
Fpm wrote:

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BRUH you literally advertised GAMBLING somewhere else in one of lightnings blogs

Stil1
melvinbluestone wrote:

   No! No! Please! Take it away! I can't watch these post game interviews anymore! They're too painful!

     Kudos to Magnus for just dismissing that last ridiculous question: If you weren't playing in the match, who's commentary would you enjoy watching?

    Magnus' answer: Sorry, but I don't even remotely care......  

Was that actually a question? Sheesh. I'm glad Magnus gave an honest answer. Hopefully it discourages future inane questions.

Anonymous_Dragon
Stil1 wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:

   No! No! Please! Take it away! I can't watch these post game interviews anymore! They're too painful!

     Kudos to Magnus for just dismissing that last ridiculous question: If you weren't playing in the match, who's commentary would you enjoy watching?

    Magnus' answer: Sorry, but I don't even remotely care......  

Was that actually a question? Sheesh. I'm glad Magnus gave an honest answer. Hopefully it discourages future inane questions.

There was a question that was even more insane . 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/fide-world-championship-magnus-carlsen-vs-ian-nepomniactchi?newCommentCount=2&page=7#comment-65323885